[Wsssc] Gainful Employment Rule

Thu Nov 9 08:35:19 PST 2023

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On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 8:26 AM Lauren Hibbs via wsssc <wsssc at lists.ctc.edu>
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> To be discussed at Hot Topics today.
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> *From:* Laura McDowell <lmcdowell at sbctc.edu>
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> *Subject:* RE: Gainful Employment Rule
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> Hello all,
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> I’m just following up on this September email from Summer. Today, Katie
> shared the attached presentation with me.
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>    - Choi and Julie – Will the overtime pay requirements affect any of
>    our non-faculty employees? See slides 17-22.
>    - Bill and Marie – Do you think our workforce deans know about this
>    upcoming rule?
>    - Everyone – It looks like a shutdown is likely to happen on November
>    17. Do we need to let the system know? Maybe it’s a matter of re-issuing
>    the email Choi sent (attached) when we were preparing for a possible
>    October shutdown.  Or maybe the information has changed?
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> Along with Choi, I’m looping in Paul, Julie H, and Arlen.
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> Thanks!
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> Laura
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> *From:* Summer Kenesson <skenesson at sbctc.edu>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 27, 2023 3:23 PM
> *To:* Joyce Hammer <jhammer at sbctc.edu>; Marie Bruin <mbruin at sbctc.edu>;
> William Durden <wdurden at sbctc.edu>; Lauren Hibbs <lhibbs at sbctc.edu>;
> Denise H. Costello <dcostello at sbctc.edu>; Jamie Traugott <
> jtraugott at sbctc.edu>; Monica Wilson <mwilson at sbctc.edu>; Valerie Sundby <
> vsundby at sbctc.edu>; Michael Brown <mbrown at sbctc.edu>
> *Cc:* Carmen McKenzie <cmckenzie at sbctc.edu>; Laura McDowell <
> lmcdowell at sbctc.edu>; Katie Rose <krose at sbctc.edu>; Noah Overby <
> noverby at sbctc.edu>; Diana Knight <dknight at sbctc.edu>; Travis Dulany <
> tdulany at sbctc.edu>; Roma Bert <rbert at sbctc.edu>
> *Subject:* Gainful Employment Rule
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> Hello all-
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> Attached (or a link below, I can’t tell on my phone) is a summary of the
> gainful employment rule that was cleared this morning and will go into
> effect on July 1, 2024 (barring any delays from a shutdown).
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> As far as the programs affected, this is very similar to the last
> iteration of GE, in that for our colleges it will apply to non-degree,
> Title IV eligible programs. There are a number of approaches to mitigate
> the number of affected programs - mainly in the way they are embedded into
> degrees - but we do have terminal certificates that would be GE programs.
> As we move forward with badges, stackable programs, and other short term
> programs, this is something to bear in mind.
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> I will discuss this with RPC and data services as it relates to the
> workload, especially in the first year, and what we can provide to colleges
> in support.
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> Over fall quarter we will also run some initial reviews of the GE eligible
> programs we have currently, to see if there are any that are potentially at
> risk of not meeting the thresholds.
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> More soon - and I will be presenting on this through Bill Belden in a
> couple of weeks, and I am happy to present to any colleges or commissions
> and answer any questions I can (and send up the chain any that I can't).
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> It's not our first rodeo on this as a system, and we learned a lot last
> time. It is important though, and could potentially result in some
> challenges for some programs and for communication if we have any programs
> fail to meet thresholds. That said, we have been down this road before and
> we can manage both the workload and the risk.
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> Thanks!
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> Summer
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> https://www2.ed.gov/policy/highered/reg/hearulemaking/2021/gainful-employment-notice-of-final-review-factsheet.pdf
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