[Wactclc-primo] [External] RE: RE: No Facets in certain searches

Thu Jan 3 11:25:36 PST 2019

Pierce is not seeing that issue. Sorry, Dan!
-Lesley

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Hey all,

We've been seeing a lack of "Available in the library" facets here at Edmonds. Example: https://sbctc-edcc.primo.exlibrisgroup.com/discovery/search?query=any,contains,german&tab=Everything&search_scope=MyInst_and_CI&vid=01STATEWA_EDCC:EDMONDS&lang=en&offset=0<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fsbctc-edcc.primo.exlibrisgroup.com%2fdiscovery%2fsearch%3fquery%3dany%2ccontains%2cgerman%26tab%3dEverything%26search_scope%3dMyInst_and_CI%26vid%3d01STATEWA_EDCC%3aEDMONDS%26lang%3den%26offset%3d0&c=E,1,37tqQeE3rL6u8IKY2UpYde8CtD_kKNwPk7VMJN7JP_IqGOc8jg0JKBpQcxqBBP2jiz82e6YTBvuBaagP9QD1AWc1QAiV5DzCnYBmlpO86S4,&typo=1> (screenshot attached).

I remember during the migration seeing this and I thought I read that it was a known issue. Could anyone confirm?

-Dan

On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 8:00 AM Guidry, Wade <WadeG at bigbend.edu<mailto:WadeG at bigbend.edu>> wrote:
Elena,

Just FYI, this appears to be resolved now (even without the search widget changes Sarah suggested in basecamp).

Changing the boost settings for your local content seems to have had an effect;

I believe because the ‘availability’ facet is partly driven by the specific search results for the current search.

I’m going to research that point more and I’ll post back to the list what I learn.

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I am noticing that when I search from the test widget for Primo VE (we go live with that tomorrow), when it’s set to “Everything,” the “Available in Library” label doesn’t show up at all.
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Is this related to what Amy is talking about or is this something different?

Thanks,

Elena

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The good news is that, the more you guys pick at VE, the deeper my understanding of it gets. ☺

There is a fairly simple option that would allow the scope selection from the widget to stick, and the facets to display.

It would require that the same facets display for all scopes (everything, library, course reserves, etc), then we can move all of your search profiles (scopes) under a single profile slot (tab), so that the tab always equals everything.

The change in Primo VE that allows all these variations is the ability in VE to determine which facets to display with which scopes. The main use of this is the course reserve scope, where you might want a different set of facets than the other scopes.

The only possible downside is that the course reserves facets would need to display on all searches.

Meanwhile, I’m sure we can dig up some code to sync up the tab attribute with the selected scope attribute in a search widget, it will just take some googling around.

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Thanks, Wade. I put the code back.  I’d rather have filters available for my original search results, than have the scope stick if a patron wants to do a subsequent search, but have no filters for my original search results.  Sigh.  Maybe I should take a sabbatical to learn more coding…

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Yes, looks like for the facets to show from a search widget, the ‘tab’ attribute needs to be set.

But for the scope selection from the widget to ‘stick’ in Primo, the tab value needs to match the scope.

So, catch-22… either the facets display or the scope sticks (exception is ‘everything’ scope, since it’s the default tab).

One solution is to simply your search widget and make it default to ‘everything’. (see Pierce College, Highline College)

The other option is to write some javascript / jquery code to set the tab attribute value based on the search_scope attribute value.

I’m sure it’s possible, but I don’t have the code handy for you.

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It’s only doing that when launching from the widget, with the Library Catalog scope selected.  So maybe something about removing that line of widget code yesterday, to keep the scope from resetting?

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Is this when you start the search from the library web site, or from within Primo proper?

Also, what browser?

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Hi again Primo friends,

Since this was so helpful last time, I have another fun mystery for us! I'm using Olympic College as a guinea pig since we seem to have similar settings. Certain searches will block out our facets completely, but it is only triggered by certain searches. I cannot figure out why the word bananas is one of those searches, but that seems to be a pretty consistent way to check it. I have also included "Blood and Bone" as a search that clears out the facets from the sidebar as well (see the screenshots below). It seems to only happen with the "library catalog" selected from the drop down. I'd love more detail about whether it's happening for others and whether it's Alma related or something I accidentally hid with my CSS. Thanks!

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