[Wactclc-primo] [External] RE: RE: No Facets in certain searches

Wed Jan 2 16:58:36 PST 2019

Hey all,

We've been seeing a lack of "Available in the library" facets here at
Edmonds. Example:
https://sbctc-edcc.primo.exlibrisgroup.com/discovery/search?query=any,contains,german&tab=Everything&search_scope=MyInst_and_CI&vid=01STATEWA_EDCC:EDMONDS&lang=en&offset=0
(screenshot attached).

I remember during the migration seeing this and I thought I read that it
was a known issue. Could anyone confirm?

-Dan

On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 8:00 AM Guidry, Wade <WadeG at bigbend.edu> wrote:

> Elena,
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> Just FYI, this appears to be resolved now (even without the search widget
> changes Sarah suggested in basecamp).
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> Changing the boost settings for your local content seems to have had an
> effect;
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> I believe because the ‘availability’ facet is partly driven by the
> specific search results for the current search.
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> I’m going to research that point more and I’ll post back to the list what
> I learn.
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> [image: Title: Big Bend Community College Logo]
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> *Wade Guidry*
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> *Library Consortium Services Manager*
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> *Big Bend Community College*
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> *wadeg at bigbend.edu <wadeg at bigbend.edu>*
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> *509.760.4474*
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> *www.bigbend.edu* <http://www.bigbend.edu/>
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> *Big Bend Community College • 7662 Chanute Street NE • Moses Lake, WA
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> WACTCLC Alma Instance: Alma NA02 <http://status.exlibrisgroup.com/>
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> WACTCLC Primo Instance: Primo NA08 <http://status.exlibrisgroup.com/>
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> *From:* Wactclc-primo [mailto:wactclc-primo-bounces at lists.ctc.edu] *On
> Behalf Of *Elena Bianco
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 11, 2018 7:37 PM
> *To:* WACTCLC Primo discussions <wactclc-primo at lists.ctc.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [Wactclc-primo] [External] RE: RE: No Facets in certain
> searches
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> I am noticing that when I search from the test widget for Primo VE (we go
> live with that tomorrow), when it’s set to “Everything,” the “Available in
> Library” label doesn’t show up at all.
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> Is this related to what Amy is talking about or is this something
> different?
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> Thanks,
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> Elena
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> Elena Bianco, Systems & Technical Services Librarian
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> Skagit Valley College
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> 2405 E. College Way
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> Mount Vernon, WA 98273
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> (360)416-7624
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> *From:* Wactclc-primo <wactclc-primo-bounces at lists.ctc.edu> *On Behalf Of
> *Guidry, Wade
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 11, 2018 11:19 AM
> *To:* WACTCLC Primo discussions <wactclc-primo at lists.ctc.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [Wactclc-primo] [External] RE: RE: No Facets in certain
> searches
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> The good news is that, the more you guys pick at VE, the deeper my
> understanding of it gets. J
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> There is a fairly simple option that would allow the scope selection from
> the widget to stick, and the facets to display.
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> It would require that the same facets display for all scopes (everything,
> library, course reserves, etc), then we can move all of your search
> profiles (scopes) under a single profile slot (tab), so that the tab always
> equals everything.
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> The change in Primo VE that allows all these variations is the ability in
> VE to determine which facets to display with which scopes. The main use of
> this is the course reserve scope, where you might want a different set of
> facets than the other scopes.
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> The only possible downside is that the course reserves facets would need
> to display on all searches.
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> Meanwhile, I’m sure we can dig up some code to sync up the tab attribute
> with the selected scope attribute in a search widget, it will just take
> some googling around.
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> Wade Guidry
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> Library Consortium Services Manager, WACTCLC
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> wadeg at bigbend.edu
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> (509) 760-4474
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> http://www.wactclc.org
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> *From:* Wactclc-primo <wactclc-primo-bounces at lists.ctc.edu> *On Behalf Of
> *Herman, Amy
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 11, 2018 10:55 AM
> *To:* WACTCLC Primo discussions <wactclc-primo at lists.ctc.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [Wactclc-primo] [External] RE: RE: No Facets in certain
> searches
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> Thanks, Wade. I put the code back.  I’d rather have filters available for
> my original search results, than have the scope stick if a patron wants to
> do a subsequent search, but have no filters for my original search
> results.  Sigh.  Maybe I should take a sabbatical to learn more coding…
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> *Amy Herman*
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> Library Faculty | Olympic College
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> 1600 Chester Avenue | Bremerton, WA 98337
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> aherman at olympic.edu | 360-475-7256
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> [image: alma signature]
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> *From:* Wactclc-primo <wactclc-primo-bounces at lists.ctc.edu> *On Behalf Of
> *Guidry, Wade
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 11, 2018 9:32 AM
> *To:* WACTCLC Primo discussions <wactclc-primo at lists.ctc.edu>
> *Subject:* [External] RE: [Wactclc-primo] RE: No Facets in certain
> searches
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> Yes, looks like for the facets to show from a search widget, the ‘tab’
> attribute needs to be set.
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> But for the scope selection from the widget to ‘stick’ in Primo, the tab
> value needs to match the scope.
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> So, catch-22… either the facets display or the scope sticks (exception is
> ‘everything’ scope, since it’s the default tab).
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> One solution is to simply your search widget and make it default to
> ‘everything’. (see Pierce College, Highline College)
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> The other option is to write some javascript / jquery code to set the tab
> attribute value based on the search_scope attribute value.
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> I’m sure it’s possible, but I don’t have the code handy for you.
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> Wade Guidry
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> Library Consortium Services Manager, WACTCLC
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> wadeg at bigbend.edu
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> (509) 760-4474
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> http://www.wactclc.org
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> *From:* Wactclc-primo <wactclc-primo-bounces at lists.ctc.edu> *On Behalf Of
> *Herman, Amy
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 11, 2018 8:59 AM
> *To:* WACTCLC Primo discussions <wactclc-primo at lists.ctc.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [Wactclc-primo] [External] RE: No Facets in certain
> searches
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> It’s only doing that when launching from the widget, with the Library
> Catalog scope selected.  So maybe something about removing that line of
> widget code yesterday, to keep the scope from resetting?
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> *Amy Herman*
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> Library Faculty | Olympic College
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> 1600 Chester Avenue | Bremerton, WA 98337
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> aherman at olympic.edu | 360-475-7256
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> [image: alma signature]
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> *From:* Wactclc-primo <wactclc-primo-bounces at lists.ctc.edu> *On Behalf Of
> *Guidry, Wade
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 11, 2018 8:55 AM
> *To:* WACTCLC Primo discussions <wactclc-primo at lists.ctc.edu>
> *Subject:* [External] RE: [Wactclc-primo] No Facets in certain searches
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> Is this when you start the search from the library web site, or from
> within Primo proper?
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> Also, what browser?
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> Wade Guidry
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> Library Consortium Services Manager, WACTCLC
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> wadeg at bigbend.edu
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> (509) 760-4474
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> http://www.wactclc.org
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> *From:* Wactclc-primo <wactclc-primo-bounces at lists.ctc.edu> *On Behalf Of
> *Bryant, Lauren
> *Sent:* Monday, December 10, 2018 5:57 PM
> *To:* WACTCLC Primo discussions <wactclc-primo at lists.ctc.edu>
> *Subject:* [Wactclc-primo] No Facets in certain searches
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> Hi again Primo friends,
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> Since this was so helpful last time, I have another fun mystery for us!
> I'm using Olympic College as a guinea pig since we seem to have similar
> settings. Certain searches will block out our facets completely, but it is
> only triggered by certain searches. I cannot figure out why the word
> bananas is one of those searches, but that seems to be a pretty consistent
> way to check it. I have also included "Blood and Bone" as a search that
> clears out the facets from the sidebar as well (see the screenshots below).
> It seems to only happen with the "library catalog" selected from the drop
> down. I'd love more detail about whether it's happening for others and
> whether it's Alma related or something I accidentally hid with my CSS.
> Thanks!
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> [image: Image removed by sender. shoreline logo]
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> *Lauren Bryant*
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> Pronouns: She / Her
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> Reference Librarian
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> Ray Howard Library
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> *Shoreline Community College*
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-- 
Regards,

Dan Moore
Systems and Collections Librarian
Edmonds Community College Library
dan.moore at edcc.edu / daniel.moore at email.edcc.edu
(425) 640-1526
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