[LIBRARYDIR] [EXTERNAL] Re: [SPAM] RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: [EXTERNAL] [SPAM] Re: OCLC FirstSearch

Wed Jun 5 11:38:19 PDT 2024

My understanding-- from OCLC documentation and emails with OCLC reps-- is
that if you subscribe to FirstSearch, you now also have access to WorldCat
Discovery. Around 2017 or 2018, OCLC was planning to replace the
FirstSearch product with WorldCat Discovery, but there was outcry from
libraries who preferred the FirstSearch interface (it offers more advanced
search fields than WorldCat Discovery).

OCLC emails/documentation from around this time suggest that OCLC was
planning to provide libraries with both products for a year without
charging additional costs, then libraries would need to decide if they
wanted one, the other, or both. However, it seems that at some point, OCLC
decided that if you pay for one, you get the other for no extra cost? Per a
recent email with the OCLC rep: "FirstSearch and Discovery are different
sites but yes to you have a subscription to Discovery with your Firstsearch
subscription." Indeed, I discovered we do have a WorldCat Discovery site
<https://edmondscommunitycollegelibrary.on.worldcat.org>, but it was never
configured and no one uses it.

Re: notable consequences of cancelling FirstSearch, the OCLC rep tells me
that we will lose 1) WorldCat.org web visibility (our library's holdings
will no longer show in WorldCat.org), and 2) the ability to link to our ILL
form from WorldCat.org (patrons will no longer be able click a button on
WorldCat.org to have bibliographic info auto-filled into our ILL form).

Thanks,
Sarah

On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 10:55 AM Dawn Hawley via LIBRARYDIR <
librarydir at lists.ctc.edu> wrote:

> Thanks for this helpful info, Carleigh.
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> I remember the Wayfinder “group catalog” project, but I was not involved
> with it. It is interesting that although Wayfinder was discontinued in
> 2013, the original agreement, which includes locked in rates for some OCLC
> products, has been extended a few times, including back in 2020 for five
> years.
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> I see that the contract specifically calls for participating libraries to
> purchase:
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>    - Unlimited Cataloging,
>    - Unlimited ILL, and a
>    - FirstSearch WorldCat Subscription.
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> The renewal notice that I received lists:
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>    - Cataloging & Metadata Subscription,
>    - FirstSearch, and
>    - WorldShare ILL.
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> Now I’m wondering if FirstSearch *is* Worldcat now. Has anyone cancelled
> FirstSearch? Have there been any notable consequences?
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> Thanks,
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> Dawn
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> Dawn Hawley
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> *From:* Hill, Carleigh <CarleighH at bigbend.edu>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 5, 2024 10:26 AM
> *To:* Thomas, Kirsti <Kirsti.Thomas at seattlecolleges.edu>; WACTC Library
> Directors <librarydir at lists.ctc.edu>
> *Cc:* Dawn Hawley <dhawley at btc.edu>
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [LIBRARYDIR] [SPAM] RE: [EXTERNAL] RE:
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> Here is the State Library page about the project if that helps:
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> https://www2.sos.wa.gov/library/libraries/projects/wayfindermoreaboutwho.aspx
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> *From:* LIBRARYDIR <librarydir-bounces at lists.ctc.edu> on behalf of Dawn
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> *To:* Thomas, Kirsti <Kirsti.Thomas at seattlecolleges.edu>; WACTC Library
> Directors <librarydir at lists.ctc.edu>
> *Cc:* Dawn Hawley <dhawley at btc.edu>
> *Subject:* [LIBRARYDIR] [SPAM] RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: [EXTERNAL] [SPAM] Re:
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> Hi Kirsti,
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> Thank you for that context. I would appreciate a look at Will’s email.
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> Dawn
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> Dawn Hawley
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> Executive Director
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> Bellingham Technical College
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> *From:* Thomas, Kirsti <Kirsti.Thomas at seattlecolleges.edu>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 4, 2024 8:36 PM
> *To:* WACTC Library Directors <librarydir at lists.ctc.edu>
> *Cc:* Dawn Hawley <dhawley at btc.edu>
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] RE: [LIBRARYDIR] [EXTERNAL] [SPAM] Re: OCLC
> FirstSearch
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> One thing to be aware of—
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> Some OCLC products that libraries have are through a group contract that
> was brokered by the Washington State Library. That contract requires
> participants to maintain subscriptions to specific services & products to
> get the contract pricing.
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> I had an email exchange with Will Stuivenga (now retired) from the State
> Library about this back in 2019. At the time, Will said that the contract
> required participants to carry subscriptions for:
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>    - Unlimited Cataloging
>    - Unlimited ILL
>    - A WorldCat subscription (WorldCat Discovery???)
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> I don’t think FirstSearch was part of that contract, but I wanted to
> mention this just in case you get any weird price increases to any other
> OCLC subscriptions after cancelling FirstSearch.
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> I can share the full text of Will’s email for anyone who wants it.
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> It will be ok!
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> Kirsti S. Thomas (Hear my first name <http://namedrop.io/kirstithomas>)
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> Library Technical Services Manager & Systems Librarian
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> Seattle Colleges
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> *From:* LIBRARYDIR <librarydir-bounces at lists.ctc.edu> *On Behalf Of *Dawn
> Hawley via LIBRARYDIR
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> *Cc:* Dawn Hawley <dhawley at btc.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [LIBRARYDIR] [EXTERNAL] [SPAM] Re: OCLC FirstSearch
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> Thank you for the responses. It’s the priciest item on our renewal list,
> but a straw poll of local library staff indicates lack of use and lack of
> interest in use.
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> Dawn
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> Dawn Hawley
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> Bellingham Technical College
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> Hey Dawn~
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>      I decided to cancel it this next year.  It was used so infrequently,
> I think I assessed that it was costing us about $300 a usage.
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> All my best,
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> Jacquelyn
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> Hello All,
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> How is your library using OCLC FirstSearch these days?
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> Dawn
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> Dawn Hawley
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> Executive Director
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> Library, eLearning & Academic Support
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