[LIBRARYDIR] [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXTERNAL]Re: Checkpoint?

Thu Feb 23 17:37:30 PST 2023

We have Biblioteca, and they still work, but I'm not excited about them.
They offer another product that only counts people, rather than setting off
bells, that I am more excited about.

*Claire Murata, MLIS*
Associate Dean, Library and Learning Resources
20000 68th Ave. W., Lynnwood WA 98036 | edmonds.edu
claire.murata at edmonds.edu | (425) 640-1522

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On Thu, Feb 23, 2023 at 4:13 PM Derylak, Deborah via LIBRARYDIR <
librarydir at lists.ctc.edu> wrote:

> The CPTC team is interested in this thread, too!  We’ve been considering
> removing our security gates, and this conversation has given us more
> inspiration to do so!
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> Those of you who have removed security gates or are in the process of
> doing so…  Do you have any suggestions for how to re-home or even recycle
> that equipment, once it’s been removed?  Or are these things just doomed to
> become part of the landfill?
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> peace,
> Deb
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> *Deb Derylak, MLIS (she/her/hers)*
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> *Learning Resource Center Coordinator*
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> 253-589-5730 | deborah.derylak at cptc.edu | Bldg 15, Rm 113I
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> *From:* LIBRARYDIR <librarydir-bounces at lists.ctc.edu> * On Behalf Of *Tarker,
> Daniel via LIBRARYDIR
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2023 3:31 PM
> *To:* WACTC Library Directors <librarydir at lists.ctc.edu>
> *Cc:* Tarker, Daniel <Daniel.Tarker at seattlecolleges.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [LIBRARYDIR] [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re:
> [EXTERNAL]Re: Checkpoint?
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> Interested in this thread.
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>
> North is getting a refurbished library soon and the faculty and staff have
> decided not to have security gates.
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> Daniel Tarker, MFA, Ed.D.
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> Interim Associate Dean of the Library and Learning Support Services
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> North Seattle College
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> daniel.tarker at seattlecolleges.edu
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> (206) 934-4754
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> *From:* LIBRARYDIR <librarydir-bounces at lists.ctc.edu> on behalf of
> Richard S Lewis via LIBRARYDIR <librarydir at lists.ctc.edu>
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2023 3:28 PM
> *To:* WACTC Library Directors <librarydir at lists.ctc.edu>; Claire Murata <
> claire.murata at edmonds.edu>
> *Cc:* Richard S Lewis <rlewis88 at uw.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [LIBRARYDIR] [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re:
> [EXTERNAL]Re: Checkpoint?
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> Hello,
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> Our gates (Bibliotheca) stopped working years ago. We are leaving them in
> as a visual deterrent and are about to go with the overhead Traf-Sys
> system. We have not had significant loss.
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> Kind regards,
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> *RICHARD S. LEWIS, PhD, MLIS *
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> Associate Dean of Libraries and Director
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> UW Bothell and Cascadia College Library
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> Box 358550
> 18225 Campus Way NE
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> Bothell, WA 98011-8245
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> *From:* LIBRARYDIR <librarydir-bounces at lists.ctc.edu> *On Behalf Of *Dawn
> Hawley via LIBRARYDIR
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2023 3:15 PM
> *To:* Claire Murata <claire.murata at edmonds.edu>; WACTC Library Directors <
> librarydir at lists.ctc.edu>
> *Cc:* Dawn Hawley <dhawley at btc.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [LIBRARYDIR] [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re:
> [EXTERNAL]Re: Checkpoint?
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> Theft or missing items have not been issues for us. Dawn
>
>
>
> *From:* Claire Murata <claire.murata at edmonds.edu>
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2023 3:11 PM
> *To:* WACTC Library Directors <librarydir at lists.ctc.edu>
> *Cc:* Dawn Hawley <dhawley at btc.edu>
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [LIBRARYDIR] [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re:
> [EXTERNAL]Re: Checkpoint?
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> Are those of you whose gates are not working finding that more books and
> other things are being stolen?
>
> *Claire Murata, MLIS*
> Associate Dean, Library and Learning Resources
> 20000 68th Ave. W., Lynnwood WA 98036 | edmonds.edu
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> On Thu, Feb 23, 2023 at 3:04 PM Dawn Hawley via LIBRARYDIR <
> librarydir at lists.ctc.edu> wrote:
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> We use a Trafsys counter that just tracks each entry & exit. The hardware
> is mounted on our doorway. Dawn
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> *From:* LIBRARYDIR <librarydir-bounces at lists.ctc.edu> *On Behalf Of *Coe,
> Erica via LIBRARYDIR
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2023 1:58 PM
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> *Cc:* Coe, Erica <ecoe at olympic.edu>
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [LIBRARYDIR] [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXTERNAL]Re:
> Checkpoint?
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> Our gate stopped functioning after COVID and it can’t be fixed. We haven’t
> removed it yet.  We are still stripping the books though in case we decide
> to replace it.
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> If you don’t have a security gate, what are you using for a gate counter?
> I want a bi-directional version so it counts in and out separately.
> Looking for recommendations.
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> Thanks,
>
> Erica
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> Dawn, Ours has been broken/non-functional for at least 5 years. Now we are
> trying to figure out how to remove it altogether, and fix the holes in the
> floor.
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> Jaclyn Jacot (she/her/hers)
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> Dean of Extended Learning and Workforce Initiatives
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> Spokane Community College
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> 509-533-8235
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> *From:* LIBRARYDIR <librarydir-bounces at lists.ctc.edu> *On Behalf Of *Dawn
> Hawley via LIBRARYDIR
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2023 8:57 AM
> *To:* WACTC Library Directors <librarydir at lists.ctc.edu>
> *Cc:* Dawn Hawley <dhawley at btc.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [LIBRARYDIR] [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXTERNAL]Re: Checkpoint?
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> Top secret, but our security gate has been unplugged since we moved into
> this building 11 years ago… ;)
>
> I’m wondering about the labeling/processing end of things, now that the RF
> stickers are phasing away.
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> *From:* LIBRARYDIR <librarydir-bounces at lists.ctc.edu> *On Behalf Of *Jeannie
> Henkle via LIBRARYDIR
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2023 6:27 PM
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> In terms of an alternative, we have security gates through Bibliotheca.
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> Thank you,
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>
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> *From:* LIBRARYDIR <librarydir-bounces at lists.ctc.edu> on behalf of North,
> Sarah via LIBRARYDIR <librarydir at lists.ctc.edu>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2023 6:15 PM
> *To:* WACTC Library Directors <librarydir at lists.ctc.edu>
> *Cc:* North, Sarah <snorth at columbiabasin.edu>
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL]Re: [LIBRARYDIR] Checkpoint?
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> We also used Checkpoint gates.
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> We are under construction right now for a retrofit and made the decision
> to just not use security gates going forward! 😬
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> We tested out dummy gates for a while at our smaller branch and had zero
> loss.
>
> It's not a decision that works for every library, but the combination of
> factors made us really examine our loss ratios and we got admin support for
> the decision.
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>
> I'm sure this wasn't super helpful to you, but I couldn't resist chiming
> in since this decision was made final very recently! 😂
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> *From:* LIBRARYDIR <librarydir-bounces at lists.ctc.edu> on behalf of Dawn
> Hawley via LIBRARYDIR <librarydir at lists.ctc.edu>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2023 4:59:56 PM
> *To:* WACTC Library Directors <librarydir at lists.ctc.edu>
> *Cc:* Dawn Hawley <dhawley at btc.edu>
> *Subject:* [LIBRARYDIR] Checkpoint?
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> Hello,
>
> I hear that Checkpoint is going out of business and that they are selling
> out their remaining RF Date Due and De-tuning supplies. Does anyone else
> use the Checkpoint security gate system? If so, have you identified a
> work-around or new product?
>
> Thanks for your thoughts,
>
> Dawn
>
>
>
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