[CATO] Lucid now live in Canvas RCE

[Monica Olsson]

Hi Amy, thanks for sharing with us. Interestingly, I was not aware of this integration. I’m forwarding to my director and ETAG. Vicki and I will add our voices to the list of folks requesting VPAT information.

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
________________________________
From: CATO <cato-bounces at lists.ctc.edu> on behalf of Rovner, Amy via CATO <cato at lists.ctc.edu>
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2024 5:52:04 PM
To: cato at lists.ctc.edu <cato at lists.ctc.edu>
Cc: Rovner, Amy <arovner at shoreline.edu>
Subject: [CATO] Fw: Lucid now live in Canvas RCE

[Sent from outside SBCTC]

Hi All - I'm feeling very frustrated with Canvas and Lucid right now.  See my rant below that I sent to all of our WA SBCTC Canvas Admins...

TL;dr - Canvas has set up a partnership with Lucid (Lucid Spark/ Lucid Chart)  that is a direct integration into Canvas which is difficult/ if not impossible to turn off at the college level. Lucid doesn't have a publicly available VPAT and has been cagey about sharing information out. I saw a demo at InstructureCon last week and have serious concerns about its accessibility. I have requested info and will share as soon as I receive it.

Best,
Amy


Amy Rovner, MPH RD (she,hers)
Director eLearning Services
ctcLink Training Lead

Shoreline Community College
www.shoreline.edu  |  206.546.6937
eLearning Office: 206.546.6966
eLearning Email: elearning at shoreline.edu
Shoreline Support Center<https://support.shoreline.edu/>
Canvas Support - call 888-672-2040

[Shoreline Community College]<https://shoreline.edu/>







________________________________
From: Rovner, Amy
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2024 5:49 PM
To: College LMS Domain Administrators <waol-admin at lists.ctc.edu>
Subject: Lucid now live in Canvas RCE

Hi All,

I was at InstructureCon last week and got a glimpse at the Lucid integration in the RCE. I have serious concerns re: its accessibility (not to mention usability - the demo was a confusing mess). We cannot toggle it on and off. It's there now for everyone.

[cid:8eec0093-1a76-4263-90a2-f28f0af078a2]

They do not have a public VPAT. I asked questions in a live session and the presenters didn't know/couldn't answer my questions about accessibility.

I searched their website and came up with an article that describes how a user can create "more accessible" things with their product.

Finally search Canvas Community and found this note from Vanessa Cicero who works for Lucid. In response to folks questions about VPATs, accessibility, etc.:
      "@jenn_stevens<https://community.canvaslms.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/104137> we require a completed NDA in order to share our VPAT information.  If you email me (vcicero at lucid.co<mailto:vcicero at lucid.co>), I can send you in the right direction to get this information. "

Never a good sign when you have to sign an NDA to get a VPAT! Lots of follow up chatter from folks about how needing to sign a NDA is not good, California State Univ San Marcos even stated that they will not sign NDAs to get VPATs.

And then an about face and suddenly Lucid is "freely sharing" their VPAT but you still have to email someone to get it. Email bdavis at lucid.co<mailto:bdavis at lucid.co> to request Lucid’s VPAT and Accessibility roadmap.

Sigh...

I have reached out to get a copy to both people. I encourage all of you to reach out too - the more the merrier! Flood their inbox so they know how important this is to WA state!

Here are some upcoming info sessions from Lucid - apologies for the inaccessible screenshot but they created the flyer in Lucid and the text isn't selectable (only the URLs to sign up for the sessions). Isn't making me feel more optimistic...

From their post in the community:  You can review the details here<https://lucid.app/lucidchart/bdfbcfa4-1296-4a92-87f8-4ebfbcbab2cf/view>. (see what you think of that link).

[cid:46735ddc-35ef-4e92-9d41-9d5921022a72]

OK - off my soapbox for the afternoon.

Happy Sunshiny evening,
Amy



Amy Rovner, MPH RD
Director eLearning Services
ctcLink Training Lead

Shoreline Community College
www.shoreline.edu<http://www.shoreline.edu>  |  206.546.6937
eLearning Office: 206.546.6966
eLearning Email: elearning at shoreline.edu<mailto:elearning at shoreline.edu>
Shoreline Support Center<https://support.shoreline.edu/>
Canvas Support Live Chat: [http://%3Chttps/cases.canvaslms.com/liveagentchat?chattype=student%3E]for Students; [http://%3Chttps/cases.canvaslms.com/apex/liveagentchat%3E]for Faculty (or call 888-672-2040)

[Shoreline Community College]<https://shoreline.edu/>


-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.ctc.edu/pipermail/cato_lists.ctc.edu/attachments/20240716/6b7d1478/attachment-0001.htm>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image.png
Type: image/png
Size: 15920 bytes
Desc: image.png
URL: <http://lists.ctc.edu/pipermail/cato_lists.ctc.edu/attachments/20240716/6b7d1478/attachment-0003.png>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image.png
Type: image/png
Size: 90306 bytes
Desc: image.png
URL: <http://lists.ctc.edu/pipermail/cato_lists.ctc.edu/attachments/20240716/6b7d1478/attachment-0004.png>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: Outlook-Shoreline .png
Type: image/png
Size: 11325 bytes
Desc: Outlook-Shoreline .png
URL: <http://lists.ctc.edu/pipermail/cato_lists.ctc.edu/attachments/20240716/6b7d1478/attachment-0005.png>