[ATcoord] [Accessibleit] [ITACCESS] Fwd: [WebAIM] Serious bugs in latest Acrobat update: DO NOT UPDATE

Monica Olsson molsson at sbctc.edu
Thu Sep 23 12:17:43 PDT 2021 

Agreed, Sheryl As often as possible, I present/share information in Word and have starting using online docs like Google and Microsoft 360 as well. I don't think these options are 100 percent accessible, but I like the fact that when allowed, folks can collaborate in real-time together without having to save new versions on their computer and send back and forth, etc. You can also lock your Google docs to prevent others from modifying it if that is a concern.

Grackle docs is an add-on for Google docs that runs an accessibly feature and will assist you in defining header row in tables, which is not something I have been able to see how to do without running the add-on, unfortunately.

I'd also like to see faculty attaching and uploading fewer documents inside Canvas in favor of presenting information as Canvas pages using the Rich Context Editor.



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Subject: Re: [Accessibleit] [ITACCESS] Fwd: [WebAIM] Serious bugs in latest Acrobat update: DO NOT UPDATE

I would love to have members on this list share successful practices in eliminating or at least reducing the use of PDFs in favor of, for example,HTML or Word.
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On Sep 22, 2021, at 1:39 PM, Monica Olsson <molsson at sbctc.edu<mailto:molsson at sbctc.edu>> wrote:

Forwarding this conversation for those working with Adobe and interesed.




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Subject: Re: [ITACCESS] Fwd: [WebAIM] Serious bugs in latest Acrobat update: DO NOT UPDATE

I will definitely contribute my frustrations to Adobe. We had the same issues here at ODU and I'm glad to see we're not alone.

Thank you for starting this!


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Last week, Adobe updated Acrobat and with it, the PDF Maker plug-in for MS
Office that is used to export PDFs from Word and other office apps on
Windows.

Several key bugs in PDF Maker have shown up since, namely:

*       Alt-text added in Word is dropped in the exported PDF and replaced
with code gibberish. (Yes, all the Alt-text you worked hard on is gone!)

*       Every frigging line, border, and background fill on table cells,
text boxes, paragraph borders, and hyperlinks is tagged in the Tag Tree with
<P>PathPathPathPathPathPath.one "path" for each border on each cell in a
table.

*       And there's no way to roll back to the previous version of Acrobat
and recover your tools. Once updated, you are S O L.

Three actions to take:

1.       Vote to fix these bugs on Adobe's UserVoice website.
If you can, please also add a comment about how accessibility is required
for you and your organization by your country's and state's laws. (Adobe's
staff don't understand these laws about civil rights and equal access to
information.) We need a few hundred votes on this page for Adobe to pay
attention to the problem, so spread this message to your colleagues.
The website is at
https://acrobat.uservoice.com/forums/590923-acrobat-for-windows-and-mac/sugg
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2.       Until this is fixed, use Microsoft's built-in utility to export
accessible tagged PDFs, and skip the Acrobat Ribbon (which is the Adobe PDF
Maker plug-in) altogether. I'll have a blog / tutorial on this by the
weekend, but in the meantime, here are the quick instructions:

a.       Make an accessible Word document as usual, with styles, Alt-text,
etc.

b.       File / Save As / and then choose PDF in the File Type field. This
triggers Microsoft's built-in export utility, not Adobe's.

c.       Set your options, file location, and file name.

3.       And don't upgrade to the latest version of Acrobat. The version
that is buggy (well, more than usual) is 2021.007.XXXX, and the versions of
PDF Maker that are installed with it are PDF Maker 21 Library 21.7.123 and
Library 21.7.112.



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