[Wsssc] I got a problem, can you relate?

Dave Paul Dave.Paul at skagit.edu
Sun Sep 17 17:10:42 PDT 2017

Hi Glen,
I feel your pain.

We required it for all ATA degrees last year (we had strong evidence that it raised retention rates).

For 17-18, we required it as a degree requirement for all DTA degrees that were not already above 90 credits in required coursework-our Financial Aid office warned us of the issues you have raised, and we managed to institute it as a degree requirement.

We'll spend this year working to institute it as a degree requirement for the remaining DTA degrees.

We only exempt students who transfer in 30 or more college credits.

Hope to you see you next month!

David M. Paul, Ph.D.
Vice President for Student Services
Skagit Valley College
2405 East College Way   Mount Vernon WA, 98273
(360) 416-7738

From: wsssc [mailto:wsssc-bounces at lists.ctc.edu] On Behalf Of Cosby, Glen
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Subject: [Wsssc] I got a problem, can you relate?

In an effort to promote student success and comply with the requirements of our Title III grant, last year our (then) president mandated that all new transfer students and undecided/undeclared students have to take a two-credit student success class, Guidance 102.  It seemed easy enough: we just have students take it as an elective and, voilà, financial aid pays for it and all is well.  Uh...not so much.  Forgotten in our rush to do a good deed was all the other flavors of transfer degree we offer, some of which are very restricted indeed as to what can and cannot count as an elective, and so now students in those degree programs are having to pay for the course out of pocket (or we go to our Foundation with begging bowl in hand) because FA can't pay for what is not on the degree.  We could just exempt those students from the mandate, but that seems arbitrary and will lower the number of students we are tracking for this intervention which casts us in a less than flattering light with our Title III folks.  Ach!  What to do?  Any of you have any experience with a similar scenario and have wisdom to share?  If so, I'm all ears.

Glen A Cosby, Ph.D.
Vice President of Student Services
Spokane Community College
Spokane, Washington
(509) 533-7015
Fax: (509) 533-7321

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