[Wactclc-alma] [EXTERNAL*]-Re: [External] Kanopy pricing changes

Wed Jun 24 10:26:00 PDT 2020

The Kanopy conversation is very interesting. We contacted them at the end of Winter Quarter because they licensed some films that we needed for a film studies course during our remote operations. We were told at that time that we could not get a PPU model, in spite of the fact that other colleges were using that model. So, instead, we signed an agreement and just purchased the individual titles at $125 each.

We don't make Kanopy available at all on our public-facing website. We are using it ONLY for courses who want to show videos.  I'd be interested in being involved in some sort of cooperative negotiation in conjunction with other colleges with Kanopy...

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My best info shows the following institutions having a Kanopy subscription of some type, and may not be (and probably isn’t’) 100% accurate:

Bellevue

Edmonds

Green River

Renton

Pierce

Shoreline

The best approach would be for those institutions with current Kanopy subscriptions to approach Kanopy as a consortium to express their concerns.

And possibly to negotiate a group contract with more favorable pricing.

The latter would potentially mean agreeing on a package, terms, and subscription length (like committing for x number of years).

Once the currently active Kanopy subscribed reached a deal, the contract could potentially be opened to other participants.

If those of you with active Kanopy subscriptions think that approach is viable, I can email those directors directly and suggest that approach.

To move the conversation forward from that point would then require time and involvement from people at the subscribing institutions to make something happen.

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I heard that last week too, when I inquired why were billed $2/view for 165 plays rather than automatically triggering a purchase after 50 plays. They said “This is something we can no longer offer.”  I had received no advance notification of any changes to the billing structure. I sent a response back expressing my unhappiness, and attached a copy of the email we had from the sales rep a couple of months ago offering that model to us, which is part of what convinced is to adopt the service, but have yet to hear back. I am all for pressuring Kanopy via consortium or other means, at least to allow that model to remain in place for the rest of this year.

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Hi all,

Long time, no see. ;)

I wasn’t sure if this was best to post here or CLAMS or CLAWS, so I’ll start with this list.

Another librarian and I met with our new Kanopy rep yesterday. Has anyone else met with Nicole Ojeda? She shared with us that Kanopy is making some pricing changes such as charging less than $120 per film for short films or episodes in the PDA model. She also shared that in the PPU model, hitting 60 $2 plays will no longer trigger a purchase. Meaning our top watched film at Pierce would cost us $800 already and keep going as more students watch it, rather than capping out $120. Finally, she shared that we weren’t really supposed to be on PPU model because we aren’t a public library.

This info has us in a bit of a tizzy!

Has anyone else heard something different? Is Kanopy something we need to take on as a consortium?

Thanks for your thoughts!

Lesley

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