[Wactclc-alma] [EXTERNAL*]-Re: Noticing Books and eBooks returns other item types

Wed Jan 8 13:40:23 PST 2020

I am curious, do people strongly prefer having a custom scope for physical item search to using the filter "Available in the library" after the initial search? Our librarians seem to be ok with using the filter although it's a bit annoying we have to re-apply the filter every time the search is modified. I can see custom scopes are useful for targeted audiences, maybe to be used in a widget or for some kind of automated feed. I haven't configured any custom scope because no one has asked me for one, but I'd love to play with the configuration.

Naoko
Highline College
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Agreed. Our librarians wanted to be able to search only physical items in the catalog and so I created a custom scope for physical items with a location in our two campuses and I called that scope “In the Library.” We are still deciding whether we want to change that physical location scope to be our “Library Catalog” because that’s how everyone traditionally understood our catalog to be. Of course, then it wouldn’t include ebooks.

It certainly is more complicated than our old Millennium days…

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There are ways to configure the custom scope to really zero in on a certain part, or parts, of your collection. As Wade shows, for just books you use conditions to limit by resource type=book. I’m less sure on the need for two layers of available physical=exists, but maybe that helps accuracy.

I have found that you can get very granular and specific with your local collection. It is more difficult (at least it has been for me) to get accurate when working with the “everything” scope.

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Wade,

Would this custom scope include videos and other physical items in the library?

Thanks,
Traci

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Traci,

The scope being used for that search is ‘MyInstitution’ (&search_scope=MyInstitution in the URL)

That scope includes all title records in Alma. Doesn’t matter the format (book, journal, etc).

Basically,

MyInstitution scope = titles-only search

Everything scope = titles + articles

If you want a books-only search, you need to set up a custom local scope based on resource type, something like the following, and then assign it to a search profile and slot:

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You might just want to rename the facet.

We don't have a "Books & ebooks" facet at all.  We have the following names for our facets:

Library Catalog

Everything

Articles and eResources

Course Reserves

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I just did the same search and got the same results.

Traci

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Hey all, has anyone seen an issue like this? I search for books and eBooks in the drop-down, and get journals and other resource types returned. I have to click a second time to limit to books using the Resource Type facet. This obviously is annoying and potentially confusing to the general user. Why not just disable these specific searches if they aren’t accurately doing what they say they should do?

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