[Wactclc-alma] [External] RE: RE: DOAJ

[Daniel Moore]

Ok, quick follow-up. Here's some notes I have about it: "In Primo Back
Office, GetIt template and mapping tables are customizable (thought not
advisable by Ex Libris). In Primo VE, these linking customization tables
are not exposed. At some Primo institutions, there is heavy link
customization within the GetIt templates area of Primo.  Within Primo VE,
links of this type are handled at the view level through General Electronic
Services within the Fulfillment area instead of the links section of the
normalization rules. GES links/link templates are not currently sensitive
to data source, though they are sensitive to metadata based conditions to
control when the links are seen or not." So that explains why I can't find
that table in Alma right now.

I'll keep looking through my notes to see if there are better workarounds
for this.

-Dan


On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 1:17 PM Daniel Moore <daniel.moore at email.edcc.edu>
wrote:

> Oh! I ran into this problem at OSU with DOAJ especially, where it would
> display an unhelpful iframe of the page instead of just the direct link to
> the resource. In the PBO there was this fantastic table for GetIt Link1 and
> GetIt Link2 configurations where would could specify "full@@activate" if
> we wanted the service loaded in the iframe or "out@@display" if we just
> wanted a direct link.
>
> Since so much of that was strewn about the Alma interface in terms of
> actually configuring things, I'm going over my Primo vs. Primo VE notes to
> see if I can find something more specific. Will continue looking! But I
> think that deleted and reloading the collection isn't wholly needed.
>
> -Dan
>
> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 12:59 PM Kun, Lily <lkun at spscc.edu> wrote:
>
>> Wade, I already tried that, but maybe I didn’t wait long enough. I’ll try
>> it again and wait overnight.
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>> *Lily*
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>> *From:* Wactclc-alma <wactclc-alma-bounces at lists.ctc.edu> *On Behalf Of *Guidry,
>> Wade
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2019 12:53 PM
>> *To:* WACTCLC Alma Discussion <wactclc-alma at lists.ctc.edu>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Wactclc-alma] [External] RE: RE: DOAJ
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>> Just be sure to let the collection fully deactivate and delete, since
>> it’s a big one.
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>> just waiting overnight, and reactivate the following day, would be my
>> suggestion.
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>> Wade Guidry
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>> Library Consortium Services Manager, WACTCLC
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>> wadeg at bigbend.edu
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>> (509) 760-4474
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>> http://www.wactclc.org
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>> *From:* Wactclc-alma <wactclc-alma-bounces at lists.ctc.edu> *On Behalf Of *Elena
>> Bianco
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2019 12:47 PM
>> *To:* WACTCLC Alma Discussion <wactclc-alma at lists.ctc.edu>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Wactclc-alma] [External] RE: RE: DOAJ
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>> OK. Thanks, Wade. I’ll give that a try.
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>> Elena Bianco, Systems & Technical Services Librarian
>>
>> Skagit Valley College
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>> 2405 E. College Way
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>> Mount Vernon, WA 98273
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>> (360)416-7624
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>> *From:* Wactclc-alma <wactclc-alma-bounces at lists.ctc.edu> *On Behalf Of *Guidry,
>> Wade
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2019 12:41 PM
>> *To:* WACTCLC Alma Discussion <wactclc-alma at lists.ctc.edu>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Wactclc-alma] [External] RE: RE: DOAJ
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>> The Centralia instance does provide a direct to the article (
>> https://wactc-centralia-primo.hosted.exlibrisgroup.com/primo-explore/fulldisplay?docid=TN_doaj_soai_doaj_org_article_68aa1c6a2254455180b55e067c45ad02&context=PC&vid=CENTRALIA_V1&search_scope=EVERYTHING&tab=default_tab&lang=en_US
>> ), while Skagit does not.
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>> I do not see any configuration differences between the two, so I believe
>> the issue must be related to metadata.
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>> I think the issue in the Skagit Primo might just be stale metadata
>> somewhere.
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>> Elena (and probably Lily at SPSCC as well), the easiest thing to do is to
>> deactivate and then delete the DOAJ collection in your institution zone.
>> Then wait overnight, and reactivate it fresh from the community zone.
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>> That may resolve the issues you are both seeing with not being linked
>> directly to the article from the DOAJ collection.
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>> Wade Guidry
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>> Library Consortium Services Manager, WACTCLC
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>> wadeg at bigbend.edu
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>> (509) 760-4474
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>> http://www.wactclc.org
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>> *From:* Wactclc-alma <wactclc-alma-bounces at lists.ctc.edu> *On Behalf Of *Elena
>> Bianco
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2019 11:44 AM
>> *To:* WACTCLC Alma Discussion <wactclc-alma at lists.ctc.edu>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Wactclc-alma] [External] RE: RE: DOAJ
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>> ATTENTION: This email contains links. Please follow best practices before
>> clicking on links
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>> Thanks, Amy!
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>> Elena Bianco, Systems & Technical Services Librarian
>>
>> Skagit Valley College
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>> 2405 E. College Way
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>> Mount Vernon, WA 98273
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>> (360)416-7624
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>> *From:* Wactclc-alma <wactclc-alma-bounces at lists.ctc.edu> *On Behalf Of *Herman,
>> Amy
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2019 11:43 AM
>> *To:* WACTCLC Alma Discussion <wactclc-alma at lists.ctc.edu>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Wactclc-alma] [External] RE: RE: DOAJ
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>> Elena,
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>> I asked Wade on the list last week (related to direct linking).  He
>> responded that it is explained here:
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>> *Configuration Menu > Fulfillment > Discovery Interface Display Logic >
>> Online Services Order*
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>> https://knowledge.exlibrisgroup.com/Primo/Product_Documentation/020Primo_VE/025Display_Configuration/200Configuring_Discovery_Interface_Display_Logic_for_Primo_VE#Configuring_the_Order_of_Online_Services
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>> *Amy Herman*
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>> Library Faculty | Olympic College
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>> 1600 Chester Avenue | Bremerton, WA 98337
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>> aherman at olympic.edu | 360-475-7256
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>> *From:* Wactclc-alma <wactclc-alma-bounces at lists.ctc.edu> *On Behalf Of *Elena
>> Bianco
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2019 11:34 AM
>> *To:* WACTCLC Alma Discussion <wactclc-alma at lists.ctc.edu>
>> *Subject:* [External] RE: [Wactclc-alma] RE: DOAJ
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>> Oh, that’s a great idea, Amy. I will do the same. Where can we demote a
>> collection – is it somewhere in the collection record in Alma, or is there
>> a way to demote open access sources in general?
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>> Elena Bianco, Systems & Technical Services Librarian
>>
>> Skagit Valley College
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>> 2405 E. College Way
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>> Mount Vernon, WA 98273
>>
>> (360)416-7624
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>> *From:* Wactclc-alma <wactclc-alma-bounces at lists.ctc.edu> *On Behalf Of *Herman,
>> Amy
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2019 11:32 AM
>> *To:* WACTCLC Alma Discussion <wactclc-alma at lists.ctc.edu>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Wactclc-alma] [External] RE: DOAJ
>>
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>> Our DOAJ links only go to the title level as well.  In fact I renamed the
>> collection to include a short note to warn that it does so!  I am also
>> planning to demote DOAJ to the bottom of the collection order, if more than
>> one collection of ours has the article.  The default order is alphabetical
>> so it currently appears at the top.
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>> *Amy Herman*
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>> Library Faculty | Olympic College
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>> 1600 Chester Avenue | Bremerton, WA 98337
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>> aherman at olympic.edu | 360-475-7256
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>> [image: alma signature]
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>> *From:* Wactclc-alma <wactclc-alma-bounces at lists.ctc.edu> *On Behalf Of *Elena
>> Bianco
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2019 9:57 AM
>> *To:* WACTCLC Alma Discussion <wactclc-alma at lists.ctc.edu>
>> *Subject:* [External] RE: [Wactclc-alma] DOAJ
>>
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>> Lily, our link to DOAJ works, however, I'm only linking to the journal
>> title, not the specific article.
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>> Ryer, when you click on the full-text link, does it go to the article
>> itself?  If so, how did you set that up? This is an increasing frustration
>> for us with many of the open access titles. Students end up having to do
>> their search twice, or more frequently, just giving up and leaving the site
>> altogether...
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>> Elena Bianco
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>> Systems & Technical Services Librarian
>>
>> Skagit Valley College Library
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>> 2405 E. College Way
>>
>> Mount Vernon, WA 98273
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>> (360) 416-7624
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>> *From:* Wactclc-alma <wactclc-alma-bounces at lists.ctc.edu> on behalf of
>> Ryer Banta <ryer.banta at centralia.edu>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2019 9:39 AM
>> *To:* WACTCLC Alma Discussion
>> *Subject:* Re: [Wactclc-alma] DOAJ
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>> Hi Lily,
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>> My set up looks exactly the same as yours and we’re not having issues. I
>> checked with this same title.
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>> Looking at the linking tab, it looks like the parser parameters are using
>> http. DOAJ is now secure https. But again, mine is working with the http
>> setting… There may be something more too. Does access fail when looking at
>> the portfolios in the service editor?
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>> That’s cool how you have the online access as embedded. Does that scale
>> ok across various devices? Perhaps this embedding is causing issues?
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>> Ryer
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>> *From:* Wactclc-alma <wactclc-alma-bounces at lists.ctc.edu> *On Behalf Of *Kun,
>> Lily
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2019 9:10 AM
>> *To:* WACTCLC Alma Discussion <wactclc-alma at lists.ctc.edu>
>> *Subject:* [Wactclc-alma] DOAJ
>>
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>> Help! I’m having trouble with my DOAJ links. I’m getting an error page in
>> my Online Access section, but when I scroll down to the Links section, the
>> View full text in DOAJ link works and takes me to the article. I’ve looked
>> at my activation for DOAJ and they seem fine to me (BTW, I’ve suppressed
>> the bib record for the collection itself, but not the portfolios).
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>> Am I missing another step?
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>> *Lily Kun*
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>> Systems and Electronic Resources Librarian
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> --
> Regards,
>
> Dan Moore
> Systems and Collections Librarian
> Edmonds Community College Library
> dan.moore at edcc.edu / daniel.moore at email.edcc.edu
> (425) 640-1526
>


-- 
Regards,

Dan Moore
Systems and Collections Librarian
Edmonds Community College Library
dan.moore at edcc.edu / daniel.moore at email.edcc.edu
(425) 640-1526
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