[Wactclc-alma] [External] RE: RE: [EXT] RE: Credo Reference issue

Guidry, Wade WadeG at bigbend.edu
Mon Apr 16 16:28:47 PDT 2018 

The labels in the "Links" section of full display in Primo are hardcoded in the PCI metadata citations.

So, no way to customize those labels.


Wade Guidry
Library Consortium Services Manager, WACTCLC
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(509) 760-4474


From: Wactclc-alma [mailto:wactclc-alma-bounces at lists.ctc.edu] On Behalf Of Sally Sheedy
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Subject: Re: [Wactclc-alma] [External] RE: RE: [EXT] RE: Credo Reference issue

Hi all,

Tangentially related to this thread... I'm wondering...is there a way to change the text for the links in the Links section?
I would like to be able to get rid of the '(subscribers only)' part which is highlighted in the screenshot Wade included (1st image below).
It shows this phrase for us with Credo and ProQuest too, perhaps others, but not all (eg our Encyclopedia Britannica).
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And just as an FYI,  Amy, if you put /content/title/ instead of /book/ in your links they would work. Not much help for you to know this but Wade will note this on the SF ticket so Ex Libris can see about a fix to the PCI metadata.

>From your comment:  The page you were trying to reach, https://search.credoreference.com/book/hmidiom, does not exist.

This link works for me:   https://search.credoreference.com/content/title/hmidiom

Thanks.
Sally


Sally Sheedy
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Whatcom Community College Library
237 West Kellogg Road
Bellingham, WA 98226
360-383-3287  (library 3300, college 3000)
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From: Wactclc-alma <wactclc-alma-bounces at lists.ctc.edu<mailto:wactclc-alma-bounces at lists.ctc.edu>> On Behalf Of Guidry, Wade
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Subject: Re: [Wactclc-alma] [External] RE: RE: [EXT] RE: Credo Reference issue

I've just been adding people to the ticket as cc's, so you would get updated automatically when the ticket gets updated.

No more room for additional cc's, but I'll circulate any reponses from ExL to this list.

The issue is global at the Credo collection level anyway (not to specific institutions).

Meanwhile, one way to get to the article directly from a Credo citation entry in Primo is to use the link from the Links section of the full record display (highlighted below).

That link will get you directly to the article, even if the link in the 'viewit' section does not:

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Wade Guidry
Library Consortium Services Manager, WACTCLC
wadeg at bigbend.edu<mailto:wadeg at bigbend.edu>
(509) 760-4474


From: Wactclc-alma [mailto:wactclc-alma-bounces at lists.ctc.edu] On Behalf Of Sally Sheedy
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Same for Whatcom. Thanks.

From: Wactclc-alma <wactclc-alma-bounces at lists.ctc.edu<mailto:wactclc-alma-bounces at lists.ctc.edu>> On Behalf Of Kun, Lily
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Hi Wade,

SPSCC uses Credo and want to be added to the consortium ticket.

Lily

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Wade Guidry
Library Consortium Services Manager, WACTCLC
wadeg at bigbend.edu<mailto:wadeg at bigbend.edu>
(509) 760-4474


From: Wactclc-alma [mailto:wactclc-alma-bounces at lists.ctc.edu] On Behalf Of Guidry, Wade
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Amy, what is a good article (by permalink) I can take a look at.


Wade Guidry
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(509) 760-4474


From: Wactclc-alma [mailto:wactclc-alma-bounces at lists.ctc.edu] On Behalf Of Herman, Amy
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Well I'm not getting the exproxy error message, and it's taking me to Credo, but not even to the title.  I get a message like this for almost every title:

The page you were trying to reach, https://search.credoreference.com/book/vipwerew, does not exist.
The page you were trying to reach, https://search.credoreference.com/book/hmidiom, does not exist.


Amy Herman
Library Faculty | Olympic College
1600 Chester Avenue | Bremerton, WA 98337
aherman at olympic.edu<mailto:aherman at olympic.edu> | 360-475-7256

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From: Wactclc-alma [mailto:wactclc-alma-bounces at lists.ctc.edu] On Behalf Of Guidry, Wade
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Subject: [External] RE: [Wactclc-alma] RE: [EXT] RE: Credo Reference issue

Amy,

Based on the attached thread in Alma-L, I reversed the order of the URLs in your service parameter overrides.

So, I simply changed the parser override to:

url=https://search.credoreference.com & url2=https://credoreference.com

(The 2nd URL may not even be necessary.)

Test now in your Primo, with the articles you've been using to test, and see if you get better results.

If so, post back your results, and Laura could make the same change in her Credo service.


Wade Guidry
Library Consortium Services Manager, WACTCLC
wadeg at bigbend.edu<mailto:wadeg at bigbend.edu>
(509) 760-4474


From: Wactclc-alma [mailto:wactclc-alma-bounces at lists.ctc.edu] On Behalf Of Herman, Amy
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Hi Laura.  For now I've just reactivated a Case I created in 2014 for this same issue (not going to article level), which Tier 2 support closed in 2017 with no comment/explanation.

Amy Herman
Library Faculty | Olympic College
1600 Chester Avenue | Bremerton, WA 98337
aherman at olympic.edu<mailto:aherman at olympic.edu> | 360-475-7256

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From: Wactclc-alma [mailto:wactclc-alma-bounces at lists.ctc.edu] On Behalf Of Staley, Laura
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Subject: [External] RE: [Wactclc-alma] [EXT] RE: Credo Reference issue

Hi, Amy

If you do open a case, can you share the verbiage/ticket number? We are now going to title level rather than article level for Credo titles here at Renton Technical College too,  and so will probably have to submit one as well.

Thanks,

Laura Staley / RTC LIbrary

From: Wactclc-alma [mailto:wactclc-alma-bounces at lists.ctc.edu] On Behalf Of Herman, Amy
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 11:16 AM
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Subject: [EXT] Re: [Wactclc-alma] [External] RE: RE: Credo Reference issue

Unfortunately while the linking works in Primo again now using the parser override, it's only taking me to title level in Credo Reference, not article level like it did before (even up just a week or two ago).  This is typical with our reference databases, but Credo was different.  It took Ex Libris a while to get Credo to go to article level, on their end, when we first went to Primo through ORCA a few years ago but it eventually did.

Should I open a case?


From: Wactclc-alma [mailto:wactclc-alma-bounces at lists.ctc.edu] On Behalf Of Herman, Amy
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Subject: [External] RE: [Wactclc-alma] RE: Credo Reference issue

It's not quite the same because one is http and one is https.

I went ahead and overrode the parser parameters for the service as a test, and now my links in Primo are working.  I guess the other way to approach this is to add another line in the Credo stanza in the EZproxy config file.

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Amy Herman
Library Faculty | Olympic College
1600 Chester Avenue | Bremerton, WA 98337
aherman at olympic.edu<mailto:aherman at olympic.edu> | 360-475-7256

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From: Wactclc-alma [mailto:wactclc-alma-bounces at lists.ctc.edu] On Behalf Of Guidry, Wade
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Subject: [External] RE: [Wactclc-alma] Credo Reference issue

The service level in Alma looks correct to me, and is the same as in ezproxy.

You can isolate Primo by going to the resource directly through your library web site.

Did they restart ezproxy after making the change to config.txt? That might be the issue.


Wade Guidry
Library Consortium Services Manager, WACTCLC
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From: Wactclc-alma [mailto:wactclc-alma-bounces at lists.ctc.edu] On Behalf Of Herman, Amy
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Subject: [Wactclc-alma] Credo Reference issue

Is anyone else getting an error message related to ezproxy when trying to access Credo Reference articles in Primo?  I had I.T. update our Credo stanza in the EZproxy config file.  It didn't help.  I am now noticing that the URL mentioned in the error message, which is the same URL that is listed in the "service" level record for Credo in Alma, is NOT a URL that is listed on the official EZproxy stanza from OCLC.  Could this be the issue?  If so, can I do an override of the URL at the service level, and will it "stick?"

Error message from Primo:
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Service level link in Alma:
[cid:image007.jpg at 01D3D346.6466DA70]

OCLC EZproxy stanza for Credo Reference, which does not specifically include https://www.credoreference.com:

[cid:image008.jpg at 01D3D346.6466DA70]





Amy Herman
Library Faculty | Olympic College
1600 Chester Avenue | Bremerton, WA 98337
aherman at olympic.edu<mailto:aherman at olympic.edu> | 360-475-7256

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