[Wactclc-primo] [EXTERNAL*]-[Wactclc-alma] NOTES for 5/17 Zoom meeting

Tue May 17 12:42:07 PDT 2022

Hi all:
I’m attaching the chat transcript and here is the link to the Zoom recording<https://skagitvalleycollege.zoom.us/rec/share/A3XAPOylFMtRxqtdcksaArFRiCF1g4eoFYeUabVk8KmIsRrlr-p-GPei52W7Lps.yWGPAY4H4sN66NPB>. Please let me know if you can’t access.

Elena

Elena Bianco, Systems & Technical Services Librarian
Skagit Valley College
2405 E. College Way
Mount Vernon, WA 98273
(360)416-7624

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Subject: [EXTERNAL*]-[Wactclc-alma] NOTES for 5/17 Zoom meeting

Hi all,
Since we can't post notes without Wade, I don't think, I'll just throw them in this email 🙂

Thanks to Elena at Skagit for hosting the meeting today! She has the recording and the chat transcript. Kirsti volunteered to host Thursday's meeting, so keep an eye out for the link.

Meeting notes 5/17/22

ELUNA thoughts
Early in 2023, ExL is going to migrate a bunch of Analytics right into Alma.  If you migrate to the new platform, you'll be able to do a lot with the data externally, like create a persistent link to reports that you can share outside of Alma (like with your admin folks). Probably you will still be able to go back and forth between Alma analytics and Oracle analytics.

  1.  Question: Will there still be a 24 hour delay on numbers? Not sure...
  2.  Question: Will they also upgrade to a newer version of Oracle? Maybe? or Maybe do an upgrade to the display option?
  3.  Noted: DEI stuff happening, like problematic subject headings -- how to change/ display questions being actively discussed in a few working groups.

Digital Repository -- Caitlan Maxwell
New listserv collaboration with Ro McKernan. There is lots to think about tech, partnerships, communication with repositories, so Caitlan and Ro wanted to start a community of practice. They created a listserv focused on digital projects & repositories: https://lists.ctc.edu/mailman/listinfo/digital-repositories_lists.ctc.edu.

  1.  Current scene: Shoreline wants to start a repository for student, faculty, and staff and will be purchasing software soon. Digital Repositories could be for undergraduate research -- Skagit is getting a grant focused on undergraduate research -- but it could also work for archives, student newspapers.... Shoreline is probably going with DSpace Express, which is a hosted instance through Atmire: https://www.atmire.com/dspace-express, while WCC uses Omeka-S using Reclaim Hosting (https://reclaimhosting.com/): http://whatcomdigitalcommons.org/s/home/page/about.
  2.  Consideration: space. With the DSpace Express option there may be limits, and Reclaim hosting will do like 100G for $100 a year (or something similar).
  3.  Consideration: platform and purpose. DSpace and Omeka-S over ContentDM or Preservica? DSPace is more institutional repository as well as digital archive...
  4.  Consideration: workload and institutional support. Some folks are trying to stay out of the IR game for now, put that on the institution rather than the library until/unless they staff us better.  Concerns about workload, expectations on what the library can provide (especially leaders from 4-year universities not understanding the CC environment)... Alma/ Primo was a huge lift already for some folks, these types of efforts could reproduce that (and related traumas).
  5.  Consideration: Primo. Wade helped us add our Omeka content so that it is discoverable in Primo. When Ex Libris was developing Primo, they specifically built it to accept metadata content from multiple outside sources. https://knowledge.exlibrisgroup.com/Alma/Product_Documentation/010Alma_Online_Help_(English)/Digital_Resource_Management/020Configuring_Digital_Resource_Management/010Managing_Remote_Digital_Repositories
  6.  Consideration: cooperative purchasing of platforms? Lots of institutions are seeing these efforts (undergrad research, student-created OER, institutional repository stuff) surface (examples following). Amy Herman will talk about this with the WACTC governance council at an upcoming meeting (she's the secretary)
https://www.bellevuecollege.edu/rise/welcome-to-the-undergraduate-research-consortium-for-washington-ctcs/.<https://www.bellevuecollege.edu/rise/welcome-to-the-undergraduate-research-consortium-for-washington-ctcs/>
https://ocdigitalarchives.omeka.net/collections/browse
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ocdigitalarchives.omeka.net
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BAS programs

  1.  Consideration: budgeting for library resources as part of the planning process. One BAS starting up at SPSCC for craft brewing -- the library and Lily is involved. What kind of budget was asked for? Pierce CC asked for .25FTE, for example. Kristi: I'd also recommend talking to Aryana Bates and Lynn Kanne at North Seattle and Seattle Central. Amy: We require a "library" line for new BAS program budgets.  That said, not all programs were willing to allocate that to us after the first year.  It was a big issue. Kirsti: Any student at Seattle College has to pay a BAS fee for special programs which is specifically earmarked for library people/ resources.
  2.  Cool thing: SPSCC has a tasting room for their program! No full-time faculty yet for the program, though -- priorities 🙂. Heritage program at SPSCC: https://spscc.edu/news/destination-drinks-side-education-tumwaters-new-craft-district. Cardinal program at Skagit: https://svccardinalcraftbrewing.ecwid.com/.

Negotiating database pricing
Library Leadership Council - one of the items that came up was negotiated database pricing. Partnering with the eLearning people at SBCTC to leverage their voices in negotiating prices. What's the overlap between the LLC/ SBCTC versus WACTCLC (our consortium, like 28 of the 34 colleges represented by LLC, whose only real project was the Alma/ Primo migration). At the moment, trying to get Wade's position filled is the WACTCLC priority, but cooperative purchases and other considerations are out there, too. Many folks buy resources via Orbis... but don't pay into the consortium. Other folks go directly but it takes some time to negotiating -- like buying CQ Researcher from LYRASIS. LYRASIS and Community College League (or something) in California might have some deals on pricing that could compete with Orbis. LYRASIS also has training.

Have a great week, everyone! Y'all are the best.

abby koehler

she/her/hers

Systems Librarian

Whatcom Community College

360.383.3287

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10:05:54 From Nicole Longpre to Everyone:
	I made it!
10:08:09 From Nicole Longpre to Everyone:
	Will it still be a 24 hour delay?
10:10:02 From Melinda Martin to Everyone:
	EXCELLENT!
10:10:31 From Melinda Martin to Everyone:
	Do you know if Analytics will still be 24 hour delay in data?
10:10:56 From Melinda Martin to Everyone:
	I didn't get to attend.
10:12:21 From Melinda Martin to Everyone:
	Awesome!
10:12:48 From Caitlan Maxwell (she/her) Shoreline CC to Everyone:
	I've got a meeting at 10:30--but Ro at WCC and I are starting a listserv focused on digital projects & repositories:-) https://lists.ctc.edu/mailman/listinfo/digital-repositories_lists.ctc.edu
10:15:34 From Naoko Yasuda to Everyone:
	I just signed up, thank you!
10:15:41 From Melinda Martin to Everyone:
	Me too!
10:16:35 From Caitlan Maxwell (she/her) Shoreline CC to Everyone:
	https://www.atmire.com/dspace-express
10:17:12 From abby koehler (she/her) to Everyone:
	WCC's Digital Commons: http://whatcomdigitalcommons.org/s/home/page/about
10:17:14 From Kirsti Thomas (Seattle Colleges) to Everyone:
	yer is using Omeka at Centralia too I think.
10:17:17 From Kirsti Thomas (Seattle Colleges) to Everyone:
	Ryer
10:17:20 From abby koehler (she/her) to Everyone:
	Built on Omeka-S
10:17:31 From Caitlan Maxwell (she/her) Shoreline CC to Everyone:
	Reclaim Hosting
10:17:47 From Caitlan Maxwell (she/her) Shoreline CC to Everyone:
	https://reclaimhosting.com/
10:18:48 From Kirsti Thomas (Seattle Colleges) to Everyone:
	Whoa!
10:19:17 From Caitlan Maxwell (she/her) Shoreline CC to Everyone:
	https://reclaimhosting.com/shared-hosting/
10:19:25 From Caitlan Maxwell (she/her) Shoreline CC to Everyone:
	100 for 100 gig of shared hosting
10:20:42 From Amy Herman, Library Faculty to Everyone:
	Sorry, just came in late.  We switched from the free ContentDM to Omeka for our digital archives.  I'm not sure if we pay anything?  It wasn't my project and that librarian retired!  I can find out. We are trying to stay out of the IR game for now, put that on the institution rather than the library until/unless they staff us better.
10:21:36 From Jennifer Rohan to Everyone:
	Wade helped us add our Omeka content so that it is discoverable in Primo.
10:21:48 From Caitlan Maxwell (she/her) Shoreline CC to Everyone:
	http://www.whatcomdigitalcommons.org/s/home/page/welcome
10:22:26 From Amy Herman, Library Faculty to Everyone:
	https://ocdigitalarchives.omeka.net/collections/browse
10:22:34 From Caitlan Maxwell (she/her) Shoreline CC to Everyone:
	Amy was a great help in talking about the Omeka and Primo integration!!
10:23:34 From Kirsti Thomas (Seattle Colleges) to Everyone:
	When Ex Libris was developing Primo, they specifically built it to accept metadata content from multiple outside sources.
10:23:59 From Caitlan Maxwell (she/her) Shoreline CC to Everyone:
	https://knowledge.exlibrisgroup.com/Alma/Product_Documentation/010Alma_Online_Help_(English)/Digital_Resource_Management/020Configuring_Digital_Resource_Management/010Managing_Remote_Digital_Repositories
10:25:41 From Amy Herman, Library Faculty to Everyone:
	This is the message we got from a faculty on our campus about th is statewide push for student research:
10:25:43 From Amy Herman, Library Faculty to Everyone:
	"I was recently selected as the Institutional Action Lead for our college to represent us in the Washington Consortium for Undergraduate Research and Equity (WA-CURE)."
10:26:31 From Kirsti Thomas (Seattle Colleges) to Everyone:
	Council?
10:26:47 From Nicole Longpre to Everyone:
	Bellevue had a focus on Undergraduate Research the past few years? I think there was a conference? Before COVID, of course
10:26:53 From Amy Herman, Library Faculty to Everyone:
	this is the link we were give, hosted at Bellevue College: https://www.bellevuecollege.edu/rise/welcome-to-the-undergraduate-research-consortium-for-washington-ctcs/
10:27:52 From Kirsti Thomas (Seattle Colleges) to Everyone:
	Thanks Elena!
10:28:26 From abby koehler (she/her) to Everyone:
	At WCC, CURE is Course-based Undergraduate Research Experience (CURE)
10:29:12 From Nicole Longpre to Everyone:
	Ours was directed via the Rise Institute, but there's no Dean now, as she left in March.
10:29:13 From Jennifer Rohan to Everyone:
	Workload is a huge consideration!!
10:29:30 From Laurie Shuster (she/her) Pierce College to Everyone:
	Pierce College has some undergrad research initiatives.  Our library hasn't been asked to host any of the project materials.
10:29:39 From Melinda Martin to Everyone:
	There is some interest and plans in the works for student-created OER, so I'm curious how the two might intersect.
10:29:42 From Nicole Longpre to Everyone:
	Our librarian already works with the campus BAS programs.
10:31:11 From Nicole Longpre to Everyone:
	Sorry speaker issues
10:32:59 From abby koehler (she/her) to Everyone:
	is that the WACTC governance council, Amy?
10:33:14 From Amy Herman, Library Faculty to Everyone:
	Abby, yes.  I am secretary and Dan is "member at large"
10:34:37 From Nicole Longpre to Everyone:
	Bellevue is pretty random...
10:34:54 From Nicole Longpre to Everyone:
	We ask for money and sometimes get it?
10:35:08 From Kirsti Thomas (Seattle Colleges) to Everyone:
	Lily-- I'd also recommend talking to Aryana Bates and Lynn Kanne at North Seattle and Seattle Central.
10:35:43 From Amy Herman, Library Faculty to Everyone:
	WE require a "library: line for new BAS program budgets.  That said, not all programs were willing to allocate that to us after the first year.  It was a big issue.
10:35:49 From Cara Beth to Everyone:
	Elena, you are doing a great job ... Thanks for hosting and leading the meeting
10:35:56 From Laurie Shuster (she/her) Pierce College to Everyone:
	Yes, Pierce does ask for funding for people and materials.  And yes, we've gotten it : )
10:36:10 From Elena Bianco to Everyone:
	Thanks, Cara Beth!
10:37:41 From Nicole Longpre to Everyone:
	Not having faculty is quite typical in my experience
10:38:06 From Nicole Longpre to Everyone:
	Sweet, beer tour! count me in
10:39:12 From abby koehler (she/her) to Everyone:
	no full-time faculty but y'all have the tasting room - priorities, lol
10:39:18 From Melinda Martin to Everyone:
	LOL!
10:39:33 From Lily Kun | SPSCC to Everyone:
	https://spscc.edu/news/destination-drinks-side-education-tumwaters-new-craft-district
10:39:47 From Elena Bianco to Everyone:
	https://svccardinalcraftbrewing.ecwid.com/
10:40:05 From Kirsti Thomas (Seattle Colleges) to Everyone:
	One of the other librarians at St. Martin's was also one of the monks & he and I kept trying to talk the other monks into starting a beer garden.  We argued that the beer would sell itself. "1500 years of tradition in every bottle"
10:40:22 From Melinda Martin to Everyone:
	That is fabulous!
10:40:38 From Julie Sheppard (Edmonds) to Everyone:
	that's amazing!
10:41:02 From Nicole Longpre to Everyone:
	No
10:43:54 From Nicole Longpre to Everyone:
	Do many folks buy resources via Orbis?
10:43:55 From Kirsti Thomas (Seattle Colleges) to Everyone:
	And then there's Clark College who have Alma-Primo but as part of Orbis Cascade Alliance
10:44:12 From Nicole Longpre to Everyone:
	(We buy things as a non-member)
10:44:16 From Melinda Martin to Everyone:
	We do as well.
10:44:21 From Lily Kun | SPSCC to Everyone:
	We do.
10:44:22 From Kirsti Thomas (Seattle Colleges) to Everyone:
	Ditto
10:44:22 From Naoko Yasuda to Everyone:
	We do.
10:44:24 From Melinda Martin to Everyone:
	Though, I find they are not always the best pricing;
10:44:35 From Laurie Shuster (she/her) Pierce College to Everyone:
	We buy a few.  Not many
10:44:46 From Lily Kun | SPSCC to Everyone:
	True.
10:44:48 From Nicole Longpre to Everyone:
	Pricing is so wacky
10:45:23 From Nicole Longpre to Everyone:
	The new one makes all our invoices late
10:45:24 From Lily Kun | SPSCC to Everyone:
	We get CQ Researcher from LYRASIS and it's much less expensive.
10:45:45 From Nicole Longpre to Everyone:
	We had to cancel CQ. :(
10:45:51 From Melinda Martin to Everyone:
	oh, wow!
10:45:54 From Nicole Longpre to Everyone:
	I need to head out
10:46:02 From Naoko Yasuda to Everyone:
	We are cancelling CQ too.
10:46:40 From Laurie Shuster (she/her) Pierce College to Everyone:
	We cancelled CQ, too.
10:46:48 From Melinda Martin to Everyone:
	Wow!
10:47:15 From Naoko Yasuda to Everyone:
	What else does LYRASIS offer?
10:48:40 From abby koehler (she/her) to Everyone:
	They host DSpace Direct and other archives... https://www.lyrasis.org/services/Pages/Member-Services.aspx
10:49:23 From Lily Kun | SPSCC to Everyone:
	$730 Lyrasis
10:49:37 From Naoko Yasuda to Everyone:
	That's great!
10:51:19 From Naoko Yasuda to Everyone:
	We used to get CQ from them.
10:51:21 From Kirsti Thomas (Seattle Colleges) to Everyone:
	I think LYRASIS also provides training?
10:51:39 From Naoko Yasuda to Everyone:
	But Orbis Cascade Alliance's price was cheaper.
10:51:55 From Kirsti Thomas (Seattle Colleges) to Everyone:
	They do: https://www.lyrasis.org/Leadership/Pages/Classes.aspx
10:54:46 From Melinda Martin to Everyone:
	This was really helpful!
10:54:53 From Lily Kun | SPSCC to Everyone:
	Thanks Abby!
10:55:04 From Julie Sheppard (Edmonds) to Everyone:
	Thank you Abby!
10:55:05 From Cara Beth to Everyone:
	Thanks, everyone
10:55:08 From Melinda Martin to Everyone:
	Thank you!
10:55:09 From Laurie Shuster (she/her) Pierce College to Everyone:
	Thanks everyone!  I'm heading out to my next meeting, too.
10:55:14 From Naoko Yasuda to Everyone:
	Thank you everyone!
10:55:18 From Jennifer Rohan to Everyone:
	Thanks much!
10:55:23 From abby koehler (she/her) to Everyone:
	Thank you!!!