[Wactclc-primo] [EXTERNAL*]-RE: Import profile question
Guidry, Wade
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Fri Oct 2 16:41:22 PDT 2020
Yes, that's exactly what I'd do.
And I do see your example record below (9781615927739) in the CZ, sourced from an Ebsco collection.
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Thanks, Wade. So, do you mean that we should just search the community zone for those records, click on "order" for those so that we can track the purchase in acquisitions and then not bother with importing the MARC records at all? That would save a lot of work, for sure...
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Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL*]-RE: Import profile question
The TLDR; - I'd start with the CZ though, and confirm whether these records are there (search by some titles, not by collection name). My impression is that most Ebsco ebooks are in the CZ already.
Longer answer:
That brief record has no matchable ID #'s, so the only way to match the brief record is via fuzzy matching on title and ISBN, which is going to lead to the issue you're seeing.
The incoming record does have an Ebsco specific ID # in the 035, "731496". As well as an OCLC number, which may be unique to the Ebsco title.
But those #'s would need to be in the brief record as well, to get a match / overlay while avoiding any pollution of existing print records.
(The 001 is an Alma specific ID #, created with a title record is created. Incoming records from a 3rd party source won't have any ID's matching that #.)
So, your overlay issue basically starts with those brief records you're trying to overlay, and the lack of a usable unique match point. I don't have any particular recommendation on how to solve that.
Though, if those Ebsco records also exist in the community zone (I would check, if you haven't already), you could place an order off of those records, rather than hand creating brief titles for the order.
For the multiple URLs issue, you can specify which field / subfield to pull the link from. But if both entries use 856u for the link, that's a problem. A normalization rule for the profile will be required to identify the appropriate 856 to use. If you can send an example of the MARC records you're importing, I can think about how to do that.
I'd start with the CZ though, and confirm whether these Ebsco titles are there already (search by some titles, not by collection name). My impression is that most Ebsco ebooks are in the CZ already.
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They are from Ebsco ebooks. The 035's from the imported records from Ebsco look like this:
[cid:image001.png at 01D698DA.B600B340]
This is from the title Positive Results: making the best decisions when you're at high risk for breast or ovarian cancer
The brief bib generated by the Purchase Request looks like this:
[cid:image002.png at 01D698DA.B600B340]
I also noticed a problem in that this particular record had two 856's and the ebsco link was the second one, but the import profile used the first one to populate the link in the portfolio. That led to the record not working in discovery. I edited the MARC record to delete the first 856 and that fixed it so it now works just fine, but I wonder if there's any way in the import profile or a normalization rule to ensure that the 856 that is used is the actual vendor link.
I hope that's enough info to help troubleshoot.
Thanks,
Elena
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Subject: [EXTERNAL*]-RE: Import profile question
Elena / Stephanie,
What vendor are the records from?
Do the records have vendor-specific ID (035) numbers? If so, what do they look like?
For vendor specific records, that you don't want to intermix with print, you can use the match method of "035 Other System Identifier", and then specify the vendor-specific prefix, whatever it might be (usually something other than the standard OCLC prefixes like 'ocm')
And you should be able to use all of the standard overlay settings to match just those identifiers, if those are the identifiers you've included in your purchase requests.
But it really depends on what your brief titles in Alma look like, and what the incoming records look like.
I looked at your recent job history, but couldn't identify any recent previous attempts.
Can you share an example of a brief title in Alma, and also what the incoming 035's look like, and where those records are coming from?
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Hi Elena,
I don't know if this helps, but I'm attaching our ebook match profile for comparison. We have not any issues with it overlaying print... famous last words!
-Lesley
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We are having a hard time importing ebooks. They are overlaying with equivalent print titles in some cases, and none of them are importing to replace the brief bib generated by our purchase requests. We know it's the match that we've chosen (I thought that extended fuzzy was the way to go, because it should check for the format in the LDR, but apparently not), but in reading the descriptions, none of the others would work, either.
Does Wade or anyone else have any ideas of which match method would work best here?
Thanks,
Elena
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