[Wactclc-primo] Question about FRBR displays

Fri Oct 2 09:46:21 PDT 2020

Good question and excellent answer. I think we can safely award Hannah her Alma black belt now :)

And though it doesn't apply in this case, another thing to keep in mind about FRBR and deduping is that they don't occur across Alma and CDI records.

In other words, if one record is in Alma, and the other is in the CDI, those two records won't ever be deduped or FRBRed. This fact typically only comes into play with ebook titles. In which case, the solution is to turn off either the Alma or CDI collection.

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Short answer: Not really, no; since you'd have to do each title/pair of records individually it makes more sense to do it manually.

Long answer: The match points for FRBR (which is easier to match than deduping) are title and author (https://knowledge.exlibrisgroup.com/Primo/Product_Documentation/020Primo_VE/040Dedup_and_FRBR_for_Primo_VE/010Understanding_the_Dedup_and_FRBR_Processes_(Primo_VE)#Mapping_FRBR_Key_Fields), so you couldn't batch edit a set (except maybe a set that's just the pair you want to match) since each title/author is unique (deduping needs title and author and a bunch of other match points as well). But if you're using CZ records you wouldn't want to anyway, since that would edit the records for every institution that uses those CZ records. If you're using local records (or want to localize your CZ records first) and want to just batch edit the two records you could write a norm rule to change the 245 to "Jazz Part 1 Gumbo" or whatever - but it'd be quicker to edit them individually. That'd be the best option to get them to FRBR. If you want the portfolios listed on the same record in Primo, deduping takes a lot more matching, or you could just download a vendor-neutral record for each title you want to combine and relink the portfolios to that record. Whatever you do though, it's going to be a manual process.

One thing though, looking at the records you're comparing in your screenshot, they are very different lengths; are you sure they're actually the same video?

I really wish they'd let us force matches without having to try to make the keys match, which is often impossible to do without having straight-up wrong cataloging or having to localize each CZ record you're dealing with (or mess up the CZ records...don't do that!) but they don't :(

(Side note: in the test utility, which you show in your screenshot, if you click on the settings icons for each record [the gear wheels right above the 'Matched' columns] you can set it to show 'Description', which will tell you exactly what information it's drawing the keys from. 'Key Source' will help you match it to the documentation.)

Hannah Micona

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Green River College

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I have a question about how to adjust the FRBR options for Primo. We have two vendors, Films on Demand and Alexander Street PRess, both of whom provide access to the Ken Burns Jazz series. They both show up separately in Primo.  The MARC records from each vendor are very different, and I'm having a hard time determining what the FRBR function matches on in Alma.

I went to the FRBR and Dedup Test Utility in Configuration, and when I compared in both Dedup and FRBR there are no matches. I'm guessing that's because the MARC records for Avon and Films on Demand are really different looking - especially the title fields for this series. [cid:image001.png at 01D698A0.9FD6C490]

So, my question is whether there is a way to do a batch edit on one of the sets of records so that they will somehow be FRBRized together?

I also noticed that we have the Ken Burns Jazz series in DVD and CDs and those aren't FRBRized, either. But, for now, I'd just be happy if the online versions got grouped together in results.

Any advice is much appreciated!

Thanks,

Elena

Elena Bianco

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Skagit Valley College Library

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