From chess at shoreline.edu Fri Feb 10 19:41:50 2023 From: chess at shoreline.edu (Hess, Crystal) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2023 03:41:50 +0000 Subject: [equity-compsci] Data on Teachers and Students of Color Message-ID: Some data to think about (and discuss as people want): K-12 * The 2021 teacher data at https://www.csforallwa.org/data shows: Of a total of 543 CS teachers, 296 are White men, 177 are White women, 10 are Asian men, 7 are Asian women, 1 are non-binary of any race/ethnicity, 52 have no information. Although 10% do not have demographic information, the lack of diversity is hard to escape. [Grabbed from a share in CS for All Washington slack] * Per Seattle Times (Feb 9), "For the first time ever, kids of color make up the majority of students enrolled in Washington public schools. It's a slim majority, at 50.6%, but the growth in recent years has been rapid. Between 2009 and 2022, the percentage of kids identifying as a race other than white increased by nearly 50%." [Thanks for sharing, Catherine] SBCTC * Have you played with SBCTC's Faculty/Staff Race/Ethnicity data dashboards Attached is a report I put together in Nov 22 on data I had pulled. This isn't specific to CS, but it does give us an idea of our institutions within the colleges system. * Likewise, SBCTC has an enrollment dashboard for Historically Underrepresented (HU) Students of Color. -- Crystal Hess (she/Dr.) Professor of Computer Science STEM/Workforce Division | Shoreline Community College -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Faculty and Staff Data Dashboard 2021-2022.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 237564 bytes Desc: Faculty and Staff Data Dashboard 2021-2022.pdf URL: From Eric.Lloyd at Seattlecolleges.edu Sat Feb 11 11:50:20 2023 From: Eric.Lloyd at Seattlecolleges.edu (Lloyd, Eric) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2023 19:50:20 +0000 Subject: [equity-compsci] Data on Teachers and Students of Color In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This data is very interesting. I would be curious to see demographic data for populations in general within a 10-mile radius of each of these colleges disaggregated by race. (Not a request, just pondering about seeing correlations), Finding CS faculty is difficult due to the differences in pay between industry and academia and with the tech industry being overwhelmingly populated by white males, these findings aren't surprising. It definitely emphasizes the work that needs to be done and that starts with educating more underrepresented populations of students into CS so the available selection to hire from is more diverse as well. And finding a way to offer better competitive wages (although I've always believed if a teacher is a teacher for pay, they are in it for the wrong reasons). Thanks for sharing these, Crystal. Eric Lloyd, MSCS (he/him) Faculty Lead for Bachelors of Computer Science North Seattle College 9600 College Way North Seattle, WA 98103 Ph: 754-422-7702 ________________________________ From: Hess, Crystal Sent: Friday, February 10, 2023 7:41 PM To: equity-compsci at lists.ctc.edu Cc: dan.taylor at centralia.edu ; mfuentes at everettcc.edu ; allison.obourn at edmonds.edu ; Ken Hang ; Lloyd, Eric ; Chowdhury, Naser ; smore at spscc.edu Subject: Data on Teachers and Students of Color Some data to think about (and discuss as people want): K-12 * The 2021 teacher data at https://www.csforallwa.org/data shows: Of a total of 543 CS teachers, 296 are White men, 177 are White women, 10 are Asian men, 7 are Asian women, 1 are non-binary of any race/ethnicity, 52 have no information. Although 10% do not have demographic information, the lack of diversity is hard to escape. [Grabbed from a share in CS for All Washington slack] * Per Seattle Times (Feb 9), ?For the first time ever, kids of color make up the majority of students enrolled in Washington public schools. It?s a slim majority, at 50.6%, but the growth in recent years has been rapid. Between 2009 and 2022, the percentage of kids identifying as a race other than white increased by nearly 50%.? [Thanks for sharing, Catherine] SBCTC * Have you played with SBCTC?s Faculty/Staff Race/Ethnicity data dashboards Attached is a report I put together in Nov 22 on data I had pulled. This isn?t specific to CS, but it does give us an idea of our institutions within the colleges system. * Likewise, SBCTC has an enrollment dashboard for Historically Underrepresented (HU) Students of Color. -- Crystal Hess (she/Dr.) Professor of Computer Science STEM/Workforce Division | Shoreline Community College CAUTION: This email originated outside of the Seattle Colleges? email system. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Questions? Contact IT Services at x6333 (Central), x3630 (North), x5844 (South) or email ITHelp at seattlecolleges.edu. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Catherine.Wyman at skagit.edu Mon Feb 13 08:27:23 2023 From: Catherine.Wyman at skagit.edu (Catherine Wyman) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2023 16:27:23 +0000 Subject: [equity-compsci] Data on Teachers and Students of Color In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Eric and all, I have been gathering some data on our service area. I tried to capture county-wide information from the 3 counties we service, not just a 10 mile radius due to the rural nature of the population we serve. There is some information here that is not necessarily relevant to this discussion (APCS numbers, for example) but I was capturing the data as I think about how we can help CS teachers in our area through offering PD. Thanks for sharing the dashboards, Crystal! Clearly, the data show that this committee is badly needed and there is work to be done. Happy Monday! Catherine ________________________________ From: equity-compsci on behalf of Lloyd, Eric via equity-compsci Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2023 11:50 AM To: Hess, Crystal ; equity-compsci at lists.ctc.edu Cc: dan.taylor at centralia.edu ; mfuentes at everettcc.edu ; allison.obourn at edmonds.edu ; Ken Hang ; Chowdhury, Naser ; smore at spscc.edu Subject: Re: [equity-compsci] Data on Teachers and Students of Color This data is very interesting. I would be curious to see demographic data for populations in general within a 10-mile radius of each of these colleges disaggregated by race. (Not a request, just pondering about seeing correlations), Finding CS faculty is difficult due to the differences in pay between industry and academia and with the tech industry being overwhelmingly populated by white males, these findings aren't surprising. It definitely emphasizes the work that needs to be done and that starts with educating more underrepresented populations of students into CS so the available selection to hire from is more diverse as well. And finding a way to offer better competitive wages (although I've always believed if a teacher is a teacher for pay, they are in it for the wrong reasons). Thanks for sharing these, Crystal. Eric Lloyd, MSCS (he/him) Faculty Lead for Bachelors of Computer Science North Seattle College 9600 College Way North Seattle, WA 98103 Ph: 754-422-7702 ________________________________ From: Hess, Crystal Sent: Friday, February 10, 2023 7:41 PM To: equity-compsci at lists.ctc.edu Cc: dan.taylor at centralia.edu ; mfuentes at everettcc.edu ; allison.obourn at edmonds.edu ; Ken Hang ; Lloyd, Eric ; Chowdhury, Naser ; smore at spscc.edu Subject: Data on Teachers and Students of Color Some data to think about (and discuss as people want): K-12 * The 2021 teacher data at https://www.csforallwa.org/data shows: Of a total of 543 CS teachers, 296 are White men, 177 are White women, 10 are Asian men, 7 are Asian women, 1 are non-binary of any race/ethnicity, 52 have no information. Although 10% do not have demographic information, the lack of diversity is hard to escape. [Grabbed from a share in CS for All Washington slack] * Per Seattle Times (Feb 9), ?For the first time ever, kids of color make up the majority of students enrolled in Washington public schools. It?s a slim majority, at 50.6%, but the growth in recent years has been rapid. Between 2009 and 2022, the percentage of kids identifying as a race other than white increased by nearly 50%.? [Thanks for sharing, Catherine] SBCTC * Have you played with SBCTC?s Faculty/Staff Race/Ethnicity data dashboards Attached is a report I put together in Nov 22 on data I had pulled. This isn?t specific to CS, but it does give us an idea of our institutions within the colleges system. * Likewise, SBCTC has an enrollment dashboard for Historically Underrepresented (HU) Students of Color. -- Crystal Hess (she/Dr.) Professor of Computer Science STEM/Workforce Division | Shoreline Community College CAUTION: This email originated outside of the Seattle Colleges? email system. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Questions? Contact IT Services at x6333 (Central), x3630 (North), x5844 (South) or email ITHelp at seattlecolleges.edu. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: SVC HS Service Area Demographics.xlsx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.spreadsheetml.sheet Size: 13475 bytes Desc: SVC HS Service Area Demographics.xlsx URL: From Eric.Lloyd at Seattlecolleges.edu Mon Feb 13 09:27:33 2023 From: Eric.Lloyd at Seattlecolleges.edu (Lloyd, Eric) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2023 17:27:33 +0000 Subject: [equity-compsci] Data on Teachers and Students of Color In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you for sharing this Catherine. It is helpful. I am hoping to do some data exploration myself soon when I have some free time. Looking forward to exploring all of these equity-based goals together in the future. Eric Lloyd, MSCS (he/him) Faculty Lead for Bachelors of Computer Science North Seattle College 9600 College Way North Seattle, WA 98103 Ph: 754-422-7702 ________________________________ From: Catherine Wyman Sent: Monday, February 13, 2023 8:27 AM To: Hess, Crystal ; equity-compsci at lists.ctc.edu ; Lloyd, Eric Cc: dan.taylor at centralia.edu ; mfuentes at everettcc.edu ; allison.obourn at edmonds.edu ; Ken Hang ; Chowdhury, Naser ; smore at spscc.edu Subject: Re: Data on Teachers and Students of Color Hi Eric and all, I have been gathering some data on our service area. I tried to capture county-wide information from the 3 counties we service, not just a 10 mile radius due to the rural nature of the population we serve. There is some information here that is not necessarily relevant to this discussion (APCS numbers, for example) but I was capturing the data as I think about how we can help CS teachers in our area through offering PD. Thanks for sharing the dashboards, Crystal! Clearly, the data show that this committee is badly needed and there is work to be done. Happy Monday! Catherine ________________________________ From: equity-compsci on behalf of Lloyd, Eric via equity-compsci Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2023 11:50 AM To: Hess, Crystal ; equity-compsci at lists.ctc.edu Cc: dan.taylor at centralia.edu ; mfuentes at everettcc.edu ; allison.obourn at edmonds.edu ; Ken Hang ; Chowdhury, Naser ; smore at spscc.edu Subject: Re: [equity-compsci] Data on Teachers and Students of Color This data is very interesting. I would be curious to see demographic data for populations in general within a 10-mile radius of each of these colleges disaggregated by race. (Not a request, just pondering about seeing correlations), Finding CS faculty is difficult due to the differences in pay between industry and academia and with the tech industry being overwhelmingly populated by white males, these findings aren't surprising. It definitely emphasizes the work that needs to be done and that starts with educating more underrepresented populations of students into CS so the available selection to hire from is more diverse as well. And finding a way to offer better competitive wages (although I've always believed if a teacher is a teacher for pay, they are in it for the wrong reasons). Thanks for sharing these, Crystal. Eric Lloyd, MSCS (he/him) Faculty Lead for Bachelors of Computer Science North Seattle College 9600 College Way North Seattle, WA 98103 Ph: 754-422-7702 ________________________________ From: Hess, Crystal Sent: Friday, February 10, 2023 7:41 PM To: equity-compsci at lists.ctc.edu Cc: dan.taylor at centralia.edu ; mfuentes at everettcc.edu ; allison.obourn at edmonds.edu ; Ken Hang ; Lloyd, Eric ; Chowdhury, Naser ; smore at spscc.edu Subject: Data on Teachers and Students of Color Some data to think about (and discuss as people want): K-12 * The 2021 teacher data at https://www.csforallwa.org/data shows: Of a total of 543 CS teachers, 296 are White men, 177 are White women, 10 are Asian men, 7 are Asian women, 1 are non-binary of any race/ethnicity, 52 have no information. Although 10% do not have demographic information, the lack of diversity is hard to escape. [Grabbed from a share in CS for All Washington slack] * Per Seattle Times (Feb 9), ?For the first time ever, kids of color make up the majority of students enrolled in Washington public schools. It?s a slim majority, at 50.6%, but the growth in recent years has been rapid. Between 2009 and 2022, the percentage of kids identifying as a race other than white increased by nearly 50%.? [Thanks for sharing, Catherine] SBCTC * Have you played with SBCTC?s Faculty/Staff Race/Ethnicity data dashboards Attached is a report I put together in Nov 22 on data I had pulled. This isn?t specific to CS, but it does give us an idea of our institutions within the colleges system. * Likewise, SBCTC has an enrollment dashboard for Historically Underrepresented (HU) Students of Color. -- Crystal Hess (she/Dr.) Professor of Computer Science STEM/Workforce Division | Shoreline Community College CAUTION: This email originated outside of the Seattle Colleges? email system. 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