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Awesome. Thanks so much for that explanation. I didn't notice the length difference - they might actually be different versions of the same video, which also explains why they didn't combine - and we may not want to combine them after all.</div>
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And, thanks, Wade, for your comments, too about, FRBR not working across Alma and CDI records. That just saved us a lot of work. Going to just leave this one alone and move on to the next thing on my list
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">Good question and excellent answer. I think we can safely award Hannah her Alma black belt now
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">And though it doesn’t apply in this case, another thing to keep in mind about FRBR and deduping is that they don’t occur across Alma and CDI records.</span></p>
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In which case, the solution is to turn off either the Alma or CDI collection.</span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">Short answer: Not really, no; since you'd have to do each title/pair of records individually it makes more sense to do it manually.
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">Long answer: The match points for FRBR (which is easier to match than deduping) are title and author (<a href="https://knowledge.exlibrisgroup.com/Primo/Product_Documentation/020Primo_VE/040Dedup_and_FRBR_for_Primo_VE/010Understanding_the_Dedup_and_FRBR_Processes_(Primo_VE)#Mapping_FRBR_Key_Fields)">https://knowledge.exlibrisgroup.com/Primo/Product_Documentation/020Primo_VE/040Dedup_and_FRBR_for_Primo_VE/010Understanding_the_Dedup_and_FRBR_Processes_(Primo_VE)#Mapping_FRBR_Key_Fields)</a>,
so you couldn't batch edit a set (except maybe a set that's just the pair you want to match) since each title/author is unique (deduping needs title and author and a bunch of other match points as well). But if you're using CZ records you wouldn't want to
anyway, since that would edit the records for every institution that uses those CZ records. If you're using local records (or want to localize your CZ records first) and want to just batch edit the two records you could write a norm rule to change the 245
to "Jazz Part 1 Gumbo" or whatever - but it'd be quicker to edit them individually. That'd be the best option to get them to FRBR. If you want the portfolios listed on the same record in Primo, deduping takes a lot more matching, or you could just download
a vendor-neutral record for each title you want to combine and relink the portfolios to that record. Whatever you do though, it's going to be a manual process.</span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">One thing though, looking at the records you're comparing in your screenshot, they are very different lengths; are you sure they're actually the same video?</span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">(Side note: in the test utility, which you show in your screenshot, if you click on the settings icons for each record [the gear wheels right above the 'Matched' columns] you can set it to show 'Description',
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<b>Subject:</b> [Wactclc-alma] Question about FRBR displays</span> </p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">I have a question about how to adjust the FRBR options for Primo. We have two vendors, Films on Demand and Alexander Street PRess, both of whom provide access to the Ken Burns Jazz series. They both show up separately
in Primo. The MARC records from each vendor are very different, and I'm having a hard time determining what the FRBR function matches on in Alma.</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">I went to the FRBR and Dedup Test Utility in Configuration, and when I compared in both Dedup and FRBR there are no matches. I’m guessing that’s because the MARC records for Avon and Films on Demand are really different
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">So, my question is whether there is a way to do a batch edit on one of the sets of records so that they will somehow be FRBRized together?
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">I also noticed that we have the Ken Burns Jazz series in DVD and CDs and those aren’t FRBRized, either. But, for now, I’d just be happy if the online versions got grouped together in results.</span></p>
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