<div dir="ltr">The Primo Working Group meeting has been delayed to next week but the group has focused this meeting on providing a response to ExL about this change. <div><br></div><div>If you have anything to say about this, please email me here or off-list. I'll summarize those statements/questions/concerns and take them to the PWG. I am - and, by extension, you all are - the only representative in that group who works in a community college library. Everyone else is at a major post-doc research institution. This means that we have an opportunity to provide real-world use cases for Primo management and development through the lens of community college needs.</div><div><br></div><div>-Dan </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 8:15 AM Guidry, Wade <<a href="mailto:WadeG@bigbend.edu">WadeG@bigbend.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">The Newspaper Search will also be activated for all customers at this time, regardless of which version you are using, and will require
 you to deactivate it if you wish to not make it available.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">It might be worth considering whether to use the new newsapaper search, at least for some.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">For those of you that like to place extra emphasis on your local collections in search results, one way to do so would be to take newspaper articles out of the
 default search. Given the amount of newspaper articles in the PCI, not having those included in the default search would definitely increase visibility of the other search results.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">And the newspaper search does not affect newspaper title records, just the PCI (article level) content. At least, that is my current understanding.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#132048">Wade Guidry<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#132048">Library Consortium Services Manager<u></u><u></u></span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f2a50">Big Bend Community College • 7662 Chanute Street NE • Moses Lake, WA 98837-3299</span></b><i><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Wactclc-primo [mailto:<a href="mailto:wactclc-primo-bounces@lists.ctc.edu" target="_blank">wactclc-primo-bounces@lists.ctc.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Yasuda, Naoko<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 29, 2018 4:25 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WACTCLC Primo discussions <<a href="mailto:wactclc-primo@lists.ctc.edu" target="_blank">wactclc-primo@lists.ctc.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Wactclc-primo] [External] SPF Softfail: RE: Newspaper Discovery Portal<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I thought so too, Amy. But the email from Christine Stohn at Ex Libris on Primo-L that started the thread says the following:  <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">“As we highlighted during our beta launch,
<span style="background:yellow">this new approach requires removal news items from the main result list whether you elect to use the newspaper search or not</span>. This is currently scheduled to start after the Primo February 2019 release
 into production. The Newspaper Search will also be activated for all customers at this time, regardless of which version you are using, and will require you to deactivate it if you wish to not make it available.”<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">A lot of institutions are expressing concerns on the thread and I agree. I definitely don’t want the news items removed from the general search results! Wade
 is right, we shouldn’t have to lose the functionality to search all items in one search because that’s what we signed up for. This feature should be optional.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Thank you, Dan, for the link to CMU’s Primo. It’s good that the newspapers search is listed first in the Material Type facet, but as we know, a lot of students
 don’t look at the facets… Please let us know how the discussion goes at the Primo Working Group meeting!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Naoko<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Wactclc-primo <<a href="mailto:wactclc-primo-bounces@lists.ctc.edu" target="_blank">wactclc-primo-bounces@lists.ctc.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Herman, Amy<br>
<b>Sent:</b> November 29, 2018 1:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WACTCLC Primo discussions <<a href="mailto:wactclc-primo@lists.ctc.edu" target="_blank">wactclc-primo@lists.ctc.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Wactclc-primo] [External] SPF Softfail: RE: Newspaper Discovery Portal<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I thought that if we did NOT activate the newspaper portal, then the newspaper results would remain available in the regular “everything” search results.   That
 they only disappear from regular Primo results if the newspaper portal is activated.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Am I misremembering or has that changed?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Sorry if this was already discussed, I get these email list messages way out of order, and late!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Amy Herman<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Library Faculty | Olympic College<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">1600 Chester Avenue | Bremerton, WA 98337<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Wactclc-primo <<a href="mailto:wactclc-primo-bounces@lists.ctc.edu" target="_blank">wactclc-primo-bounces@lists.ctc.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniel Moore<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 29, 2018 11:49 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:wactclc-primo@lists.ctc.edu" target="_blank">wactclc-primo@lists.ctc.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [External] SPF Softfail: RE: [Wactclc-primo] Newspaper Discovery Portal<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yeah, those FAQs... I mean, we can look at their planned vs. marketed Alma sandbox policy document and see how that message was transformed as it moved through the pipeline.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If folks haven't seen this, here's a working Primo site that currently uses the discovery portal: <a href="https://cmich-primo.hosted.exlibrisgroup.com/primo-explore/search?query=any,contains,gravitational%20waves&tab=everything&search_scope=EVERYTHING&vid=01CMICH&lang=en_US&offset=0" target="_blank">https://cmich-primo.hosted.exlibrisgroup.com/primo-explore/search?query=any,contains,gravitational%20waves&tab=everything&search_scope=EVERYTHING&vid=01CMICH&lang=en_US&offset=0</a>.
 You'll see in the facets a new link to re-run the query as a Newspaper search as well as the "footer" bar in the results list that does the same. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 11:43 AM Guidry, Wade <<a href="mailto:WadeG@bigbend.edu" target="_blank">WadeG@bigbend.edu</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">The wording in the current FAQs on the topic seems to indicate that we will indeed lose the ability
 to include newspaper article content in general searches. (Newspaper title level results would still appear in general searches.) Though, I’m not totally convinced that is what ExL is planning. Their product messaging, particularly prior to a feature release,
 gets garbled as it passes through management layers at ExL. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Just FYI for the group, here is the current FAQs on this topic:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">The feedback I’d like relayed to the Primo working group is that institutions should be allowed to
 continue including newspaper content in blended search scopes. Rather than be forced to use a dedicated newspaper search scope.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Speaking a consortium manager, that is the functionality under which we licensed the product initially,
 and have not agreed to drop that functionality. (I will also share that perspective with our sales rep, since I realize that the ELUNA working groups are more for feature / usability discussions with ExL, not licensing disputes
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Wactclc-primo [mailto:<a href="mailto:wactclc-primo-bounces@lists.ctc.edu" target="_blank">wactclc-primo-bounces@lists.ctc.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniel Moore<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 29, 2018 11:12 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:wactclc-primo@lists.ctc.edu" target="_blank">wactclc-primo@lists.ctc.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Wactclc-primo] Newspaper Discovery Portal</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There's a thread going in Primo-L right now regarding the Newspaper Discovery Portal that ExL introduced earlier this year. Ex Libris has adjusted its rollout strategy for this
 portal due to intense customer feedback. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm taking this subject to the Primo Working Group which is meeting tomorrow but I also wanted to start a thread on it here since the Newspaper Discovery Portal will no doubt have
 huge impacts across our libraries. How are folks feeling about the current - if poorly communicated - plans to move newspaper results out of general search results and into its own discovery portal? Has anyone conducted any user testing with students/faculty
 to see how this change might impact instruction and research? <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Ann Kucera at CMU reported the following data after testing the new portal with students: <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">"We’ve tested it with students. ‘Please find 3 newspaper articles about climate change.’ They began on our home page and needed to find a way to get
 to the Newspaper search page.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">-</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1f497d">          </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">About 1/3 (3 out of 9) of the students
 thought that the ‘Newspapers’ link in the facets was a heading and that all of the facets below related to newspapers. The other 6 students clicked on it after a short search and completed the task.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">-</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1f497d">          </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">All 9 students said they had never
 needed to find newspaper articles for any class.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">-</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1f497d">          </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">No one clicked on the Newspapers
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">-</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1f497d">          </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">We haven’t had any complaints that
 people have told me about.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">-</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1f497d">          </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Reference and instruction librarians
 seem to think it’s fine."</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">With so little time left in this quarter I fear that conducting a well-scoped user test is not feasible. We'll be doing some targeted user testing next quarter on our website and
 Primo in general but will probably wrap the Newspaper Discovery Portal into those tests. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dan Moore<u></u><u></u></p>
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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Regards,<div><br></div><div>Dan Moore</div><div>Systems and Collections Librarian</div><div>Edmonds Community College Library </div><div><a href="mailto:dan.moore@edcc.edu" target="_blank">dan.moore@edcc.edu</a> / <a href="mailto:daniel.moore@email.edcc.edu" target="_blank">daniel.moore@email.edcc.edu</a></div><div>(425) 640-1526</div></div></div>