<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Like Highline, we at Edmonds started to notice cross-reference headings being displayed in the details view in Primo in early June. To fix the display problem, we also chose to disable the Headings Enrichment feature. <br><br></div>I spot checked some of Green River's new titles and did not see any cross-referenced headings displaying. So, perhaps Ex-Libris has fixed the bug?<br><br></div>George<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 6:52 PM, Yasuda, Naoko <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nyasuda@highline.edu" target="_blank">nyasuda@highline.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Actually, I shouldn't say they had to republish all records to fix the problem. Initially they turned off the Headings enrichment option and republished the records I used as the examples in the case, but I asked them to republish all records because I was
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<p>We had the Headings enrichment option turned on but earlier this year we noticed some of the records in Primo were given subject headings not really relevant to the subject headings in the Alma records. An example was that the subject heading "Eurasia" was
added to a book titled <span><i>Colonial America : a very short introduction.</i> We submitted a case to SF and they turned the Headings enrichment option off and republished all records to fix the problem. But this was before summer, and I don't know if it
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Yes, the ‘headings enrichment’ setting should give you more what you want.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">From the doc page I linked earlier:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;background:white">This especially enhances the Primo search capability of nonpreferred (4XX) terms so that, for example, Mark Twain can
be found with Samuel Clemens; and with the cross references to the Primo author and subject browse list, when the heading Samuel Clemens appears, it displays “See Twain, Mark.”<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Does require republishing records after enabling the headings enrichment. You could open a ticket and ask them to republish everything, after you turn the switch.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Just FYI, Green River has headings enrichment enabled:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#16355a">Hmmm…we haven’t looked into this yet, but I tried the author searches you recommended, Dale. We can confirm what you’re seeing. For Mark Twain, I got 494 results,
but only 71 for Samuel Clemens. Like you, I had a different result set in each case, and I don’t see a Primo link between the two. When I get a chance, I’ll try the heading enrichment Wade recommended (probably not until next week). Obviously, our instance
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<p class="MsoNormal">We are newly concerned about how authority control, particularly for subjects, actually works, or doesn't work in Primo.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We are setting up local authority records for some local headings. In doing so we are discovering that any kind of "See" reference or "See Also" reference doesn't seem to do anything in Primo. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Have any of you seen any evidence that the cross-reference structure is or is not working in Primo?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We have tested this using a number of "See" or "See Also" references. Once example that we have used is the "See" reference of "Big Foot" for the heading of "Sasquatch" "Sasquatch" is used on records in our Alma catalog, and the heading
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><span><font color="#888888"><div><font face="arial black, sans-serif">George Babcock<br>Library Acquisitions<br></font>Edmonds Community College<br>20000 68th Ave. W<br>Lynnwood, WA 98036<br>425-640-<font color="#888888">1855<br></font></div><div><font color="#888888"><a href="mailto:george.babcock@email.edcc.edu" target="_blank">george.babcock@email.edcc.edu</a><br><br></font></div></font></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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