<div dir="ltr">Yes, that's the record. I went ahead and restored it to the way it was originally. And yes, it seems that when $b and $h are both present, then the ‘ : ’ character is suppressed.<div><br></div><div>I'm not sure if the problem is unique to just this set of CZ records. I noticed the same problem with a CD in our collection, for example:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://sbctc-edcc.primo.exlibrisgroup.com/permalink/01STATEWA_EDCC/79926d/alma99726344202809">https://sbctc-edcc.primo.exlibrisgroup.com/permalink/01STATEWA_EDCC/79926d/alma99726344202809</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Clare</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 8:31 PM Guidry, Wade <<a href="mailto:WadeG@bigbend.edu">WadeG@bigbend.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">If it’s a CZ record, you don’t want to edit it. If there are accuracy issues with a set of CZ records, the best thing is an SF ticket. And if it’s a display thing, we can usually address that with a Primo display rule, as Kirsti suggests.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Clare, if you did edit the CZ record, you can go ahead and just edit that $h field back into the record.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This issue sounds intriguingly subtle. <span style="font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Looking at your examples, is it the case that, if the record contains a $b and $h, then the ‘ : ’ character is suppressed?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">And is this the record?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If you can put the record back the way it was originally, I’ll see what I can figure out.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Wade Guidry<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Wactclc-alma <<a href="mailto:wactclc-alma-bounces@lists.ctc.edu" target="_blank">wactclc-alma-bounces@lists.ctc.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Thomas, Kirsti<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 12, 2021 3:20 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Wactclc-alma] Cataloging question<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If they're from the community zone, then we're not allowed to touch them. :(<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Community Zone records belong to everyone and any edits that you make for your own local environment carry over to all the other Alma libraries. Another library may want the 245$h there and may have procedures that rely on the subfield
being there. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There may be a way that you can change the Primo display to *not* show the 245$h<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We've been importing OCLC records for ebooks that we buy (i.e. have a long-term/perpetual access license for), and then relinking the CZ portfolio record to the OCLC bib. The OCLC bib records often have additional subject headings and
usually follow RDA cataloging standards (which don't use the 245$h). I don't know how sustainable that will be in the long run, but it's working for now.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It will be ok!<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Kirsti S. Thomas<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Wactclc-alma <<a href="mailto:wactclc-alma-bounces@lists.ctc.edu" target="_blank">wactclc-alma-bounces@lists.ctc.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Clare Bryant<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 12, 2021 13:23<br>
<b>To:</b> WACTCLC Alma Discussion <<a href="mailto:wactclc-alma@lists.ctc.edu" target="_blank">wactclc-alma@lists.ctc.edu</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Kirsti, <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">They're from the Community Zone.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 12:53 PM Thomas, Kirsti <<a href="mailto:Kirsti.Thomas@seattlecolleges.edu" target="_blank">Kirsti.Thomas@seattlecolleges.edu</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Are the records with subfield h [medium] from your ebook vendor or are they from the Alma Community Zone?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Kirsti<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Clare Bryant<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 12, 2021 11:55<br>
<b>To:</b> WACTCLC Alma Discussion <<a href="mailto:wactclc-alma@lists.ctc.edu" target="_blank">wactclc-alma@lists.ctc.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Wactclc-alma] Cataloging question<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We recently purchased some ebooks, and a few are displaying in an unexpected way whenever the title field includes subfield $b (remainder of title) in combination with subfield
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<p class="MsoNormal">My question is, does anyone know of any reason I can't just remove that subfield? The medium is included elsewhere in the record, so it seems kind of superfluous, but I thought
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></p>
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