[Wactclc-alma] [EXTERNAL*]-Re: Image link not appearing when put in 856
Elena Bianco
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Mon May 2 14:46:39 PDT 2022
Thanks, Wade. Good suggestions. Still waiting to hear back from IT on that. And, sadly, we just switched to hosted EZProxy so that server that used to host our EZProxy on campus is no longer being used...
Elena Bianco
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I’d suggest using your institutional web sites for general file and image hosting. That’s basically what web sites are for.
Or, if you self-host ezproxy, you could use that same server to host some image files in an image directory.
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Let us know if that works out, Elena! I'm keen to know if you have access and it produces what you're looking for. Are you going to load the full files or modify the images to be thumbnails... or something else?
Also +1 for the need for collective thinking out digital repositories -- we also have Omeka-S up here.
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I also wonder if I can just load the images to the college’s WordPress image directory and generate a URL that way. I will email our site administrator and see if that’s a possibility…
Elena
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Course Reserves gives you the ability to upload a computer file for a citation record. The downside is:
1. it means the file has to be associated with a course record and reading list
2. there's a limit on the file size
We experimented with this just a little bit at the start of the pandemic.
>From what we could find out, this function is kind of "on loan" from the Alma Digital product that's normally an add-on digital repository module you have to purchase separately.
There's a definite (and growing) need across the WACTCLC consortium for the libraries to have access to digital repositories. I know Ryer is running an open source Omeka repository at Centralia. It might be worth a bunch of libraries going in on a shared Omeka server together.
It will be ok!
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I'd love to hear alternatives because we recently had this conversation. There's a way to add images to the customization package in the /images folder, but that's clunky and I'm not a fan of that solution.
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Oooh! That's super interesting. Thanks for the explanation, Lauren. I will have to find another place to put our campus art thumbnails, then. There isn't a way to load images in Alma itself, is there?
Thanks!
Elena
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Elena,
I recently had this exact conversation with Springshare and their terms of use does not allow us to use their image hosting outside of LibApps. I was surprised since I had never really noticed this, but here's what they told me:
Hi Lauren,
Good question! That message you see, when copying the link for the Image URL is "Below is the URL of your selected image - please remember that images in your Image Library may only be used within the LibApps platform."
Therefore, I'm afraid the use of images outside the LibApps/Springy platforms is not allowed. :/
For more help with images, please see the training session: Best Practices for Images
I hope that helps clear things up!
Best,
Simone
Are we allowed to upload images to the Image Manager within LibGuides and use those hosted images elsewhere on the website that does not include the LibGuide pages?
For example can we also use these hosted images in our Primo/Alma records? Thank you for clarifying!
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Hi all:
I am having inconsistent results when placing image URLs in the 856 field in order to generate thumbnails in Primo. We have cataloged art on campus and when I add links in the 856 field to the Washington Arts Commission image, the thumbnails show up. This is an example: The Return Home<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsbctc-skagit.primo.exlibrisgroup.com%2Fpermalink%2F01STATEWA_SKAGIT%2F1k7g980%2Falma991000235089702822&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cd42284fe6598497e9d6408da29781f3b%7C02d8ff38d7114e31a9156cb5cff788df%7C0%7C0%7C637867893149828689%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=vDQllU7VZmYL%2BNgvcxCEvGhIo3hIzgO%2FJ4KieV6Eo4s%3D&reserved=0>
However, when I add a link to an image that is loaded in our LibGuides Image manager, the thumbnail will NOT show up in the record in Primo, even though it will show in a regular browser if I cut and paste the image URL in it. Here’s an example: Treaty Days 1855<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsbctc-skagit.primo.exlibrisgroup.com%2Fpermalink%2F01STATEWA_SKAGIT%2F1k7g980%2Falma991000716084202822&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cd42284fe6598497e9d6408da29781f3b%7C02d8ff38d7114e31a9156cb5cff788df%7C0%7C0%7C637867893149828689%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Npw%2Ff6pTTqfK91InYqD%2Ba1p63t%2BYCu4Qgzdmrcqjm60%3D&reserved=0>. Here’s the image URL for that image from Libguides: https://libapps.s3.amazonaws.com/customers/1570/images/Treaty_Days_1855_Mukilteo_Ron_Hilbert.JPG<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flibapps.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fcustomers%2F1570%2Fimages%2FTreaty_Days_1855_Mukilteo_Ron_Hilbert.JPG&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cd42284fe6598497e9d6408da29781f3b%7C02d8ff38d7114e31a9156cb5cff788df%7C0%7C0%7C637867893149828689%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=WjkQ9hgcdYYM0snraL6XOeXhDgr%2FNctkRkdPpnQFl90%3D&reserved=0>
Is there something about the LibGuides image manager that would lead to the image not displaying in Primo? As far as I can tell, the 856 fields in both records are formulated the same way. The only difference is the source of where the image is coming from. Is this something I need to wait 24 hours to see the changes from Springshare? I didn’t have to wait for the images from the Washington Arts Commission page, however, to appear in Primo. So, I’m stumped.
Thanks for any insights…
Elena Bianco, Systems & Technical Services Librarian
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