[Wactclc-alma] [External] RE: Kanopy and faculty/employee use

Fri May 10 11:57:26 PDT 2019

Hi all,

Pierce College is also having Kanopy growth pains! While it took us two years to spend out our first deposit, we are now spending that same amount in two or three months. We are currently on the $120/unlimited views plan. Because of this concern, we surveyed our faculty in winter. The results were firmly in support of Kanopy (and not just for weekend viewing). I’ve attached them if you are curious! Faculty felt the films on Kanopy were essential to some of their online classes.

We looked into the $2 model, but our faculty and library faculty are resistant. Here is their reasoning:

·         We could move to the $2 per play model, but everyone who wanted to use Kanopy would be required to create a user account with Kanopy. If a person forgets their password, they would need to contact Kanopy and have someone reset their password during normal business hours Mon - Fri. There is NOT an automated method to reset a password but the company intends to create one in the future. This is similar to what we encounter with WOIS user accounts and we often get questions about those.

·         If we move to the $2 per play model, films that we also have in FOD will not be free for us.  We will be charged when someone watches the same title in Kanopy.

·         Kanopy had a big data breech this winter, which happens to a lot of companies, but we were kind of glad we weren’t requiring people to create accounts.

For those of you using the $2 model, could you speak to those concerns?

This is a hot topic with our team right now!

Thanks!
Lesley

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We moved to that PDA model of payment and we love it. We're saving so much money over the past payment plan ($120/unlimited views). Now we're doing $2 a play and we've seen more views and yet our winter quarter bill was something like $1200 less than the previous winter quarter.

And I agree with all the sentiments shared here... All I know is, when Kanopy is brought up, the specter of that faculty usage conversation is summoned to hint at some perceived issue just hiding behind the curtains.

We pay for Kanopy with disbursements from our Foundation account. If we view Kanopy as an opportunity for faculty professional development, maybe there's a partnership with ODET to explore. Maybe we just need a secondary funding source tied to professional development to fully legitimize this use case and put to rest this conversation.

(Sorry for the Friday rant.)

-Dan

On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 7:13 AM Herman, Amy <aherman at olympic.edu<mailto:aherman at olympic.edu>> wrote:
When I got a quote from them last year they did not give me a PDA model, said that was only for public libraries which is why I was so interested to hear about this when you told me last year.  We didn't revisit the quote at that time, but I'll be curious if this option is now broadly offered to colleges.  I would hope so!

Amy Herman, Library Faculty

Olympic College

Bremerton, WA

(360) 475-7256

aherman at olympic.edu<mailto:aherman at olympic.edu>

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Hey Kirsti,

Have you seen the PDA (instead of the DDA) model that Kanopy created? LWTech helped “develop” it a couple years ago and tested it out when it came out because we couldn’t afford anything else. I think a lot of CTCs opted into it since its creation, because it’s much cheaper.

Greg

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Subject: Re: [Wactclc-alma] Kanopy and faculty/employee use

A few random thoughts…

It’s not feasible or sustainable to attempt to monitor *why* individuals are using a resource. I’d also argue that monitoring the reason why an individual is using a library-provided resource runs afoul of the American Library Association Code of Ethics:

We protect each library user's right to privacy and confidentiality with respect to information sought or received and resources consulted, borrowed, acquired or transmitted.

If you’ve got a 1-year or 3-year license for a Kanopy title, then you’ve got unlimited views and it shouldn’t matter to the library why someone is watching the video.

That said, there are very real budget issues with Kanopy that can’t be overlooked. One of my libraries has a reduced book budget this year due to problems with the Kanopy DDA (Demand Driven Acquisitions) program.  In short, Kanopy continued to allow views of videos after our account limit was reached, resulting in the library “purchasing” 1-year licenses on a bunch of titles that we hadn’t expected or budgeted for. When we looked at the use data for the DDA titles that had triggered the purchases, we saw that many of them were feature films that people watched on weekends.  We inferred from the use data that people were watching the videos for non-academic reasons (but we don’t know that for sure).

The library budget couldn’t support the level of use Kanopy was getting. So that library turned off the Kanopy DDA program and went with direct-order only. It’s less user friendly in that students and faculty can no longer see and search all the titles available in Kanopy.  Instructors have to work directly with library faculty to identify titles they want to license through Kanopy.

The other one of my libraries that’s using Kanopy has a larger budget and has left their DDA program in place (I think?). They’ll license specific titles if faculty contact them and let them know it’s needed for a course. This library hasn’t run into the problem of Kanopy allowing views over the budget limit. They’re in the second year of their Kanopy DDA program and are still deciding if DDA is worth it to them.

I think you could also reasonably make the argument that personal use is de minimis for something you’ve already licensed.  It’s when personal use is triggering a three-figure purchase that you get into a problem area.  Rather than focusing on the reason for use, it’s easier to configure your Kanopy account to minimize the chance of the library paying for a license for something that doesn’t directly support the curriculum.

Kirsti S. Thomas
Library Technical Service Manager
Seattle Colleges
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From: Wactclc-alma [mailto:wactclc-alma-bounces at lists.ctc.edu] On Behalf Of Daniel Moore
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Subject: [Wactclc-alma] Kanopy and faculty/employee use

Hey all,

Not so much an Alma collection but a resource question.

I've been told about a conversation a few years ago about switching to Kanopy and what it might mean for our faculty and employees. The chief concern is, are faculty allowed to use Kanopy for personal use? It's a resource paid for with state funding, so personal use should be prohibited; on the other hand, if a faculty member wanted to come check out a fiction novel for some beach reading, we wouldn't block that.

If you have Kanopy, what do you tell your faculty and employees?

-Dan

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Dan Moore
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Edmonds Community College Library
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