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<p class="MsoNormal">I hadn’t chimed in yet, but… We ditched neoprene bags for many of the reasons mentioned in this thread, plus the sheer numbers plus cleaning during the pandemic were unmanageable. We’re using large heavy-duty Ziploc bags and replacing them
as needed. Less environmentally kind, but the reusable bags were coming back pretty icky.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="elementtoproof">Thanks, everyone, for your suggestions!
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="elementtoproof">We have some activated charcoal which has helped a wee bit, and we just stocked up on Febreze and Scotch Guard. I also reached out to some folks to see if there are any laundry facilities on campus that we
can use during breaks. (A couple of us have used our own washers at home, but we'd rather use campus facilities if possible.) And, of course, we definitely expect to have to replace a few bags on a regular basis.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Good times! :-)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">peace,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We wipe all of them down with disinfecting wipes. For stained or stinky covers we have used Scotch Guard Carpet Cleaner. Through the grapevine, I hear that once a staff person hung an especially stinky case out the window for a few hours.
We have also thrown away a couple of really offensive bags.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Hi Deb, </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I asked my circ staff member because I have seen her using all sorts of different means to clean and deodorize laptops and their accessories. This was her response….</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I use Febreze for laptop bags. Every bag gets a light spray because they almost always have some type of light odor or smell. Sometimes if one comes back with heavy cooking odors, I'll have
to almost soak the bag twice to get all the odors out. Occasionally we'll get a bag/laptop back with
<u>very</u> heavy cigarette smells. Those are tricky. I recently had to toss a bag that I just couldn't deodorize after trying Febreze several times, along with a newspaper treatment. Nothing worked on that one! Obviously, I couldn't toss the laptop that was
in it, so I tried a few things: I soaked a rag in Febreze and laid it across the keyboard and closed the laptop. Left it for a couple days, constantly re-misting the rag. I also tried putting the open laptop in a sealed bag with newspapers to try to eliminate
the odor. Kinda worked? The smell was reduced but not completely eliminated. I believe that it sitting in the laptop cabinet all summer should help.</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I have seen her tie up items in large plastic garbage bags with Febreze rags also and let it sit for a few days.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi Deb,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Here is what my circ staff says:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">We haven’t found a way to get rid of the really strong odors from Chromebooks or laptops. It seems letting them just air out helps. I asked IT and they said
an Ozone cleaning would be the best, but it is relatively expensive and it doesn’t fully get the smell out. If the device were to get hot the odor could potentially be detected.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">As for the bags, we had success taking bags home and washing them our washing machines at home, but we don’t do this anymore. We haven’t asked if facilities
would let us use the college washing machines for this purpose. Currently, we wash them by hand with dish soap and let them air dry. It works decently. It doesn’t completely get rid of all lingering odors, but it does help especially with cigarette smoke
and musty/stale odors. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">We have had a couple of bags that smelled so bad that we just tossed them out. It wasn’t worth trying to salvage them. Planning to replace a certain amount
each year would be a good way to address this type of issue. We could say that to a certain degree replacing a specific number of bags each year is a cost of doing business.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">Happy end of summer, all!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">Christie Flynn
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi, all –<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Your Clover Park colleagues are wondering if any of you may have some advice about a special challenge that comes with laptop lending…<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">How do you deal with odors that linger – on laptops themselves, on bags, and even on power cords and perhaps other peripherals?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">Have you had any success with various forms of odor-removal? E.g., computer-safe cleaning methods and/or cleansers for bags and such? Activated charcoal? Ozone generators? Other handy tools/methods?<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">Do you charge your students for heavy odors that linger? Or do you just eat the cost of, say, replacing a certain number of bags every quarter?<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In our laptop lending policy, we include strong odors of smoke among the kinds of damage for which students may be charged, because smoke can cause harm to the devices. But there are plenty of other scents that linger – perfumes, cooking
smells, pet odors, etc.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This can be a subjective experience and a sensitive thing to address, and we very much want to err on the side of grace, so we haven’t yet formally addressed this with a student.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">But it’s a thing. And perhaps you experience this thing, too? Any wisdom from the collective is welcome and appreciated.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">peace,<o:p></o:p></p>
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