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I just want to focus my question (though it sounds like others are coming up -- super!) -- my question is more one of HOW than WHO. Like others, we face difficulties requiring College 101 (college success) for certain STEM programs and of course prof tech
degrees -- both because their coursework is very prescribed and very tight and they don't want to add additional requirements. This is its own issue. </div>
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However, my question remains, HOW did people scale up (sanely) from pilot to required for the group of students who would need to take it.</div>
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Example: Highline has about 10,000 students who are prof tech or transfer (not ESOL/ABE/"precollege"). About 4000 are prof tech declared. A little under 6000 (including Running Start) indicate the general AA or AS and transfer pathway intentions. Let's
say none of those prof tech students can take it, but we want the general transfer students to take it. OK, we are still facing how to scale up from about 40-50 students choosing College 101 in a given quarter this year to a future where (GULP) potentially
over 1,000 transfer degree-seeking students per quarter need to take it as they begin their pathways. </div>
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That's a big leap! HOW can we best approach it? How did others scale up?</div>
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Thanks,</div>
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<b>To:</b> Rister, Mavourneen <mrister@lcc.ctc.edu>; Nulty, Brigid C. <bnulty@shoreline.edu><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Elizabeth Zitron <EZitron@pierce.ctc.edu><br>
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Hi all --</div>
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I just want to focus my question (though it sounds like others are coming up -- super!) -- my question is more one of HOW than WHO. Like others, we face difficulties requiring College 101 (college success) for certain STEM programs and of course prof tech
degrees -- both because their coursework is very prescribed and very tight and they don't want to add additional requirements. This is its own issue. </div>
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However, my question remains, HOW did people scale up (sanely) from pilot to required for the group of students who would need to take it.</div>
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Example: Highline has about 10,000 students who are prof tech or transfer (not ESOL/ABE/"precollege"). About 4000 are prof tech declared. A little under 6000 (including Running Start) indicate the general AA or AS and transfer pathway intentions. Let's
say none of those prof tech students can take it, but we want the general transfer students to take it. OK, we are still facing how to scale up from about 40-50 students choosing College 101 in a given quarter this year to a future where (GULP) potentially
over 1,000 transfer degree-seeking students per quarter need to take it as they begin their pathways. </div>
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That's a big leap! HOW can we best approach it? How did others scale up?</div>
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Thanks,</div>
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<b>To:</b> Swyt, Wendy <WSWYT@highline.edu>; Nulty, Brigid C. <bnulty@shoreline.edu><br>
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?We, too, struggled with program credits. What we came up with was to trim back/ revise a few courses, revise the credits, and then we had room to make our college success course a graduation requirement. Hope this helps :)<br>
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We are in a similar place Wendy.<br>
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At Shoreline, we are unlikely to be able to make a college success course compulsory in the conventional sense -- our prof-tech and MRP degrees don't have "space" for us to add a College Success course as a requirement and adding it as a required restrictive
elective might be politically challenging for DTA/AST degrees.<br>
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We're trying to figure out how to communicate that the course is expected in the first quarter for general DTA and AST students, while also making it possible for them to opt-out since it couldn't be truly required.<br>
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Hello everyone -<br>
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I hope that all of you are staying sane at this time. I teach at Highline College where we are gearing up to expand our college success course to a required aspect of the courses for all degree-seeking students. We developed the college success course last
year and are piloting a couple sections this year each quarter (enrollment based on desire or advisor recommendations), despite the generally low enrollments that we are all facing now.<br>
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We are nervously trying to figure out how we take this from an unrequired pilot with several sections a quarter to a required course for all degree-seeking students without a giant bottleneck of students or some sort of crash and burn outcome for College 101.<br>
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For those of you who are now at the full speed (all degree-seeking students required to take the college success course) I'd love to hear how you staged the ramp-up from "we are piloting this course" to "everyone needs to take it" -- was it staggered for different
groups or did you just scale up from 5 miles an hour to 90 mph in one quarter?<br>
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You could respond to this listserv with a list like:<br>
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1. we required it for _____ and ____ as the first step.<br>
2. As the second step, in the next quarter (or year) we required it for.....<br>
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Or if it is easier, you could shoot me an email and I could set up a quick zoom conversation soon? (15-30 minutes) -- if so, let me know availability.<br>
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Thanks all!<br>
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Wendy Swyt<br>
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wswyt@highline.edu<br>
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