[DEOC] Question about Gender Markers in CTCLink
Sophia Agtarap
sagtarap at sbctc.edu
Tue Nov 7 13:13:40 PST 2023
And one more follow up:
Hi Sophia,
I checked in with Carmen and Dani on this.
Carmen was able to add some additional clarity below:
There are two different data points in play here.
1. Gender Identity (part of sexual orientation and gender identity)
a. The data you provided below with the non-binary option is gender identity.
2. Legal Sex
a. Legal Sex allows for the third option of X. The SOGI committee opted to use the description of “Not exclusively male or female” for Sex ‘X’ because it aligns with the state’s RCW. A third sex option of ‘X’ is allowable on the WA birth certificate or driver’s license.
Does that help? There’s always confusion between gender identity and legal sex. I still get asked why we did not use the description of ‘non-binary’ for the legal sex ‘X’ variable, and the reason is that we wanted to distinguish this data from gender identify = non-binary and to align with the WA state RCW.
Regarding the question “Are colleges able to remove/add questions related to this?” The answer is no, these are globally configured values. Unless I’m misunderstanding the question…
Does that answer your questions?
Thanks,
Carmen
Thanks,
-Grant
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All--
Just heard back from Grant, Deputy Director of IT and here is his response. It does make me wonder if colleges are able to modify these sections and add/remove parts:
Hi Sophia,
I just logged in to the system… and I see ‘Non-binary’ as an option. I do not see: “Not Exclusively Male or Female”
Here are the Gender Identity Values in the system:
Gender Identity Values
[Close]
A Gender Identity not listed
A gender identity not listed here.
Female (Cisgender)
Someone who identifies as female.
Gender Fluid
Denoting or relating to a person who does not identify themselves as having a fixed gender. Gender fluid refers to someone whose gender is fluid and fluctuates between two or more genders.
Gender Non-conforming
Gender expression that does not conform to societal norms.
Intersex
A person whose internal or external sexual organs, chromosomes, or other biological features are neither exclusively male or female at birth.
Male (Cisgender)
Someone who identifies as male.
More than one gender identity
More than one gender identity.
Non-binary
A person who does not identify as either male or female. Gender identity is not seen as a binary.
Prefer not to answer
Prefer not to answer.
Questioning
The questioning of one¿s gender, sexual identity, sexual orientation, or all three is a process of exploration by people who may be unsure, still exploring, and concerned about applying a social label to themselves for various reasons.
Transgender Female
A transgender female is someone who was assigned male at the time of birth, but later identifies as female.
Transgender Male
A transgender male is someone who was assigned female at the time of birth, but later identifies as male.
Two-Spirit
Two-Spirit is a term used by some indigenous North Americans to describe gender-variant individuals in their communities, specifically people within indigenous communities who are seen as having both male and female spirits within them. It is also frequently used to describe individuals who do not identify as heterosexual or straight.
Please let me know if this doesn’t answer your question. I’m not sure where the question came from, but these are global values that apply to all.
Thanks,
-Grant
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I am happy to bring this question to Grant Rodeheaver, deputy executive director for IT.
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Subject: [DEOC] Question about Gender Markers in CTCLink
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Hey DEO Fam,
Here's a question that came across my email today... wondering if anyone has any insight:
No one with gender marker X was included in the decision-making process about the "legal" "sex" options, and I still don't understand why "Nonbinary" was changed back to "Not Exclusively Male or Female."
Is anyone in our group involved or advocating for changes in CTCLink or have info on the non-binary option changing to the "not exclusively male or female"?
As FYI, I'm also asking our IR and IT departments.
Thank
Consuelo A. Grier, Ed.D. (she/her)
Vice President of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion
Bellevue College
consuelo.grier at bellevuecollege.edu
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