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Good afternoon Rena! 😊</div>
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Sorry for the delay in response! I've been thinking about your question and it's hard to answer because I'm still working with App Services to try to figure out why Mass EFC Calc is skipping students. I think it's fine for you to continue doing it the way you
have been where the system calculates for you in mass and then the next morning running the query to find those that were skipped (usually they are pretty few?).</div>
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FA offices differ in sizes so I'm not going to recommend either way because I don't know which way is more work for you. It's just when a lovely FA user had replied to my email yesterday and said they tend to go straight to 'Calc EFC' when they see the error
messages, I thought, "Nice tip! I'll share that in case others wanted to do that as well!" 🙂</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 18, 2023 1:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Financial Aid Directors <dirfinaid@lists.ctc.edu>; ctclinkfinaidsupport@lists.ctc.edu <ctclinkfinaidsupport@lists.ctc.edu>; Deborah Englehardt <denglehardt@sbctc.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Warning messages that appear when loading some ISIRs from suspense for 2023-2024</span>
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Thank you, Debbie. I have checked the suspended ISIR's that come up with that error and they have all loaded. I am wondering, should we hand calc EFC as we load? I usually let them all process through the job each evening.</div>
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<div>Spokane Falls Community College </div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 18, 2023 11:12 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Financial Aid Directors <dirfinaid@lists.ctc.edu>; ctclinkfinaidsupport@lists.ctc.edu <ctclinkfinaidsupport@lists.ctc.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ctcLinkfinaidsupport] Warning messages that appear when loading some ISIRs from suspense for 2023-2024</span>
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</span><span style="letter-spacing: normal; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">updates to QCS_FA_MASS_EFC_NOT_CALCD. Considering that ongoing issue with Mass EFC
Calc, with these students getting warning messages, you may want to go ahead and select 'Calc EFC' once you load the ISIR from suspense because for zero EFC students, Primary EFC and Prorated EFC match so nothing appears wrong but they may still have some
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of instruction on the <i>Maintain Term Budgets </i>page across all terms is not equal to 36, you will also receive these warning messages.</span></div>
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<b>Subject:</b> [ctcLinkfinaidsupport] Warning messages that appear when loading some ISIRs from suspense for 2023-2024</span>
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<span style="font-family: Aptos; font-size: 12pt; color: black;">Happy Financial Aid Day!!
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<span style="font-family: Aptos; font-size: 12pt; color: black;">I’m reaching out to you today about a few warning messages that have been popping up for colleges when loading ISIRs from suspense for 2023-2024.</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Aptos; font-size: 12pt; color: black;">The following are examples of the warning messages that pop-up.</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Aptos; font-size: 12pt; color: black;">We’ve received a few tickets from colleges and we’ve confirmed from test cases that the ISIRs do load successfully and they are just warning messages.</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Aptos; font-size: 12pt; color: black;">Warning messages are surprising and can cause worry so we’re listing two situations we’ve seen so far where these warning messages appear:</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Aptos; font-size: 12pt; color: black;">The student has four quarters of FA Term built. This makes sense because then yes, if the base week is 36 and the budgeted weeks is 36 + 8 or 36 + 7, that is not the same number.
</span><span style="font-family: "Segoe UI Emoji", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: black;">😁</span><span style="font-family: Aptos; font-size: 12pt; color: black;"> The message may also come up for some colleges on the
<i>Correct 20xx-20xx ISIR records</i> page when selecting 'Calc EFC'</span></li><li style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: Aptos; font-size: 12pt; color: black;">
<div style="direction: ltr;"><span style="font-family: Aptos; font-size: 12pt; color: black;">The student already has FA Term built when the ISIR is loaded. In the ISIR Jobset there is a process that updates the Weeks of Instruction to 12 in FA Term for Pell
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The warning messages seem to be talking about that mismatch. We tested the theory by removing the 12 and loading the ISIR and there were no error messages.</div>
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<span style="font-family: Aptos; font-size: 12pt; color: black;">Should you come across a scenario where you get the warning messages and the ISIR does not load, please submit a ticket so we can look into it and update the FA community with our findings.</span></p>
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