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Hi All - I'm feeling very frustrated with Canvas and Lucid right now. See my rant below that I sent to all of our WA SBCTC Canvas Admins...</div>
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TL;dr - Canvas has set up a partnership with Lucid (Lucid Spark/ Lucid Chart) that is a direct integration into Canvas which is difficult/ if not impossible to turn off at the college level. Lucid doesn't have a publicly available VPAT and has been cagey about
sharing information out. I saw a demo at InstructureCon last week and have serious concerns about its accessibility. I have requested info and will share as soon as I receive it.</div>
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<span style="color: rgb(0, 104, 94);"><b>Amy Rovner, MPH RD</b></span><b> (she,hers)</b><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;"><br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 15, 2024 5:49 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> College LMS Domain Administrators <waol-admin@lists.ctc.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Lucid now live in Canvas RCE</span>
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I was at InstructureCon last week and got a glimpse at the Lucid integration in the RCE. I have serious concerns re: its accessibility (not to mention usability - the demo was a confusing mess). We cannot toggle it on and off. It's there now for everyone.</div>
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They do not have a public VPAT. I asked questions in a live session and the presenters didn't know/couldn't answer my questions about accessibility. </div>
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I searched their website and came up with an article that describes how a user can create "more accessible" things with their product.</div>
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Finally search Canvas Community and found this note from Vanessa Cicero who works for Lucid. In response to folks questions about VPATs, accessibility, etc.:</div>
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"<span style="color: rgb(7, 112, 163); font-weight: 500;"><u><a href="https://community.canvaslms.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/104137" id="OWA9cb197d0-c5f4-8b71-04d3-fb5e38bcc6ba" class="x_OWAAutoLink" data-auth="NotApplicable" style="color: rgb(7, 112, 163);">@jenn_stevens</a></u></span><span style="font-weight: 500;"> we
require a completed NDA in order to share our VPAT information. If you email me (</span><span style="color: rgb(7, 112, 163); font-weight: 500;"><u><a href="mailto:vcicero@lucid.co" id="OWA2606a4e8-f6ef-960a-c30b-3fad10823f97" class="x_OWAAutoLink" style="color: rgb(7, 112, 163);">vcicero@lucid.co</a></u></span><span style="font-weight: 500;">),
I can send you in the right direction to get this information. "</span></div>
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<span style="font-weight: 500;">Never a good sign when you have to sign an NDA to get a VPAT! Lots of follow up chatter from folks about how needing to sign a NDA is not good, California State Univ San Marcos even stated that they will not sign NDAs to get
VPATs.</span></div>
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<span style="font-weight: 500;">And then an about face and suddenly Lucid is "freely sharing" their VPAT but you still have to email someone to get it.
</span><b>Email </b><span style="color: rgb(7, 112, 163);"><b><u><a href="mailto:bdavis@lucid.co" id="OWAa0a61c69-02c2-206d-c05f-1510d1e2c447" class="x_OWAAutoLink" style="color: rgb(7, 112, 163);">bdavis@lucid.co</a></u></b></span><b> to request Lucid’s VPAT
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I have reached out to get a copy to both people. I encourage all of you to reach out too - the more the merrier! Flood their inbox so they know how important this is to WA state!</span></div>
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<span style="font-weight: 500;">Here are some upcoming info sessions from Lucid - apologies for the inaccessible screenshot but they created the flyer in Lucid and the text isn't selectable (only the URLs to sign up for the sessions). Isn't making me feel more
optimistic...</span></div>
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<span style="font-weight: 500;">From their post in the community: You can review the details
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OK - off my soapbox for the afternoon.</div>
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