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This is an update to let you know that Hadi and I will be talking together on Monday the 18<span><sup>th</sup> about the possibility of hosting a webinar/discussion on this topic.</span></div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 18, 2022 9:34 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Henkle, Jeannie <jHenkle@wvc.edu>; cato@lists.ctc.edu <cato@lists.ctc.edu>; Andy Duckworth <aduckworth@sbctc.edu><br>
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Hi Jeannie, Andy, and CATO,</div>
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Thanks for your positive feedback and interest! I have contacted Hadi to discuss the possibility of a webinar or panel discussion on this topic for our system. My hope is that CATO will have an interest in helping to put this event on. I'll let you know once
I've had the chance to chat with Hadi.</div>
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I'm wondering, if we do arrange for a webinar with Hadi (which I'd be highly interested in), if CATO members could also invite members of their own teams? I'm thinking there may be a few of my WVC IT and PIO (and perhaps others) colleagues interested, too.</div>
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<b></b><span style="font-size:12pt"><b>Jeannie Henkle, </b></span><span style="font-size:14pt"><b><a href="https://ischool.uw.edu/programs/mlis/what-is-library-science" title="https://ischool.uw.edu/programs/mlis/what-is-library-science"><span style="font-size:12pt">MLIS</span></a></b></span></div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 15, 2022 7:34 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> cato@lists.ctc.edu <cato@lists.ctc.edu>; Monica Olsson <molsson@sbctc.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL]Re: [CATO] Conformance versus Functional testing</font>
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Monica,</div>
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This is great information! Thanks for reaching out to help us gain more insight. If we do set up a webinar with Hadi, could we invite folks from Christopher's team? I think they would be very interested, and it could help them in their testing process.</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 14, 2022 8:33 PM<br>
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Hello CATO,</div>
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I thought you might like to see Hadi's comment from the UW below.</div>
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<b>To:</b> Promoting Accessible IT in Higher Education <accessibleit@u.washington.edu>; accessibleit@uw.edu <accessibleit@uw.edu><br>
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<p class="x_x_x_x_x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Hello Monica,</span></p>
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<p class="x_x_x_x_x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">It is a very good but very difficult question to answer. We probably need a full webinar on this topic.</span></p>
<p class="x_x_x_x_x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">While accessibility conformance testing is valuable in identifying general and more technical accessibility issues, it does not guarantee that an application is functionally accessible for users.
For example, say that there is a navigation area with 50 options in it that is technically accessible according to the conformance testing as it has the correct keyboard controls, labelling, screen reader announcements, etc. While again it is accessible by
the standards, it is not reasonable to expect users to tab 50 times to get past this navigation area.
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<p class="x_x_x_x_x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">As far as how to incorporate them in your accessibility policy and procedures, it depends on where you set your accessibility bar. Yes, indeed accessibility conformance can improve the accessibility
of the application, but if you are aiming for real accessibility improvement, then I think you should aim to do functional accessibility testing as well, for which you would need the necessary resources. You will need someone who is familiar with the application,
can communicate your accessibility findings with the vendors, engage them in a real collaboration to fix the issues and guide them through functional accessibility feedback.</span></p>
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<p class="x_x_x_x_x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">If there is enough interest in this topic, I will be glad to offer a webinar to go into it in more detail.</span></p>
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<p class="x_x_x_x_x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Thanks,</span></p>
<p class="x_x_x_x_x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Hadi</span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Monica Olsson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 9, 2022 9:33 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> accessibleit@uw.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Accessibleit] Conformance versus Functional testing</p>
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<p class="x_x_x_x_x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I participate in a group within WA state's community and technical college system called the Committee for Accessible Technology Oversight, or CATO.</span></p>
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<p class="x_x_x_x_x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Yesterday, at our monthly meeting, members discussed accessibility conformance testing versus functional testing. We expressed some frustration in parsing out these two testing methods and how each
method should be implemented into Accessible Technology policies and procedures, such as IT procurement.</span></p>
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