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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Accessibleit <accessibleit-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu> on behalf of Hadi Rangin <hadir@uw.edu><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 10, 2022 3:04 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Promoting Accessible IT in Higher Education <accessibleit@u.washington.edu>; accessibleit@uw.edu <accessibleit@uw.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Accessibleit] Conformance versus Functional testing</font>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Hello Monica,</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">It is a very good but very difficult question to answer. We probably need a full webinar on this topic.</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">While accessibility conformance testing is valuable in identifying general and more technical accessibility issues, it does not guarantee that an application is functionally accessible for users. For example,
say that there is a navigation area with 50 options in it that is technically accessible according to the conformance testing as it has the correct keyboard controls, labelling, screen reader announcements, etc. While again it is accessible by the standards,
it is not reasonable to expect users to tab 50 times to get past this navigation area.
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">As far as how to incorporate them in your accessibility policy and procedures, it depends on where you set your accessibility bar. Yes, indeed accessibility conformance can improve the accessibility of the
application, but if you are aiming for real accessibility improvement, then I think you should aim to do functional accessibility testing as well, for which you would need the necessary resources. You will need someone who is familiar with the application,
can communicate your accessibility findings with the vendors, engage them in a real collaboration to fix the issues and guide them through functional accessibility feedback.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">If there is enough interest in this topic, I will be glad to offer a webinar to go into it in more detail.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Thanks,</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Accessibleit <accessibleit-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Monica Olsson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 9, 2022 9:33 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> accessibleit@uw.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Accessibleit] Conformance versus Functional testing</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I participate in a group within WA state's community and technical college system called the Committee for Accessible Technology Oversight, or CATO.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Yesterday, at our monthly meeting, members discussed accessibility conformance testing versus functional testing. We expressed some frustration in parsing out these two testing methods and how each method
should be implemented into Accessible Technology policies and procedures, such as IT procurement.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">How do you define and differentiate each testing method? Do you have recommendations how best to use each method strategically and in a scalable way?</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Thanks in advance for your input!</span>
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