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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I also went in as paid subscriber, and Jess’s video walkthrough was really helpful.  I liked the format, which seems straightforward and easy to navigate.  But
 I confess, I wasn’t quite sure how to approach the rest of it, so I forwarded the information to Lynne Abbay in our IT department.  I’m hoping she’ll have time to play around and offer feedback before the end of the day. 
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks for all your amazing work on this, Ward!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Karen Fusco</span></b><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#A6A6A6"> |</span></b><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#D81E05">
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</span></b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Access Services<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Cato <cato-bounces@lists.ctc.edu>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jess Thompson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 08, 2018 11:29 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ward Naf <wnaf@whatcom.edu><br>
<b>Cc:</b> cato@lists.ctc.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [External] [Cato] ACT feedback<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:10.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">My notes are in the
</span><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VHFr-Uk0_1eg7tyOO5kxDqSm6_sXq-DJzBY9ApJA6rg/edit?usp=sharing" id="LPlnk577814"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Google doc</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">,
 but I'm emailing as well. </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:10.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I did a video of my walkthrough when I went in as a paid subscriber:
</span><a href="https://screencast-o-matic.com/watch/cF1jFbFVrR" id="LPlnk194389"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1155CC">https://screencast-o-matic.com/watch/cF1jFbFVrR</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I find the submit and products pages too similar. The populated list on the submit<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> page does not let me add myself/school as a user of the product, it just takes me to the results (that’s not aiding in submitting).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Clicking on “compliance requirements” in the products page didn’t take me anywhere.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Under Products page (should this be titled something else? Product Evaluation?) I don’t<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> understand why I’d select a college from a list when trying to see the list of colleges where a product is in use.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I have a lot of strong opinions about how the testing info is defined and I feel very<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> strongly this needs to be taken out or modified before piloting. We’re setting an expectation that I do not think is going to be compatible with the
 methodology defined by the trusted tester training we’re working on. Releasing it now with that format/language<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> is going to give ideas (which will be seen as suggestions) for how to test and I guarantee some schools will start following that approach.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">When a user cannot type in a box shouldn’t there be some indicator/message explaining<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> why they can’t? It seems like that would be an accessibility thing…
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I was able to mark a product not compliant when it was already marked not assessed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">  -- it doesn’t stick, but it sure gives the impression that I’m able to make claims. Maybe those shouldn’t be buttons for people who just have permissions
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">What are WCAG files? I’ve never heard of this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">508 compliance should be removed. It’s redundant and 508 does not apply to us, only<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> to Federal gov’t (despite what testing vendors claim -- only trust .gov sites on this as vendors are using it to drum up business).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I'm also uncomfortable with screen reader testing section. I think it should be cut.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Overall, for now, I think we need to greatly limit the entire page about product results.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> Maybe even remove it until we actually have something in place for getting things tested. There are going to be a lot of people that see that and get
 angry that nothing's been tested - and rather than pay attention to why and what we're working on, they're<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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