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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><font size="3" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri Light"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks, Marc – we really appreciate you all taking the time to review this
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Lentini,
Marc <MLENTINI@highline.edu> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, March 27, 2018 11:58 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Jess Thompson <jess.thompson@sbctc.edu>; cato@lists.ctc.edu<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> Terence Hsiao <thsiao@cascadia.edu>; Sandler, Jennifer <JSANDLER@highline.edu>; Wrye, Tim <twrye@highline.edu><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [ATcoord] Request for Feedback<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Hello CATO colleagues,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I understand you are still taking feedback on this proposal. We shared the proposal with our Accessible Technology Committee at Highline, and gathered the feedback below. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">We look forward to further refinement of this idea. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Director, Instructional Design<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Accessible Technology Coordinator<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Highline College<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">The “Accessible Technology Service Center” name is great. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">The preference we heard was for a mix of the two, with a focus on the services provided in Option 2 (centralized database of test results, central testing of high-priority
items, and lots of training for accessibility activities distributed to the colleges). <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Overall, the idea of the service center fixing college web site accessibility problems was viewed as difficult to implement and less valuable:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">For us, SiteImprove has proven effective at identifying issues; perhaps a system contract for that or a similar tool, and maybe some training would be a more workable alternative. <o:p></o:p></span></font></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Once issues are identified, college web site compliance isn’t super complex. Colleges should have those skills if they’re going to get a web site. <o:p></o:p></span></font></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Mechanics of access to college web sites would be challenging<o:p></o:p></span></font></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">A center that focused on system-wide issues would be the most helpful, would offer the best economies of scale, and possibly be easier to get buy-in across the system.
The system-wide issues we identified as amenable to a central agency were:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Verification/testing of commonly used administrative apps, from ctcLink to Google Apps, to MS Office. <o:p></o:p></span></font></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2">
<font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Verification/testing of widely used instructional resources, e.g. library databases, textbook sites (MindTap, etc)<o:p></o:p></span></font></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2">
<font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Version tracking and updating of both of the above categories<o:p></o:p></span></font></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2">
<font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Centralized database of those results<o:p></o:p></span></font></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2">
<font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Accessibility mods for Legacy and Link tools (e.g. college application app)<o:p></o:p></span></font></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2">
<font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Training for system staff and faculty, including campus-level developers, webmasters, faculty, and admin staff (e.g. staff who create forms in Excel for travel paperwork<o:p></o:p></span></font></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">The idea of “trusted testers” was well received as well. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Marc Lentini | Director, Instructional Design | Highline College<br>
v: (206) 592-3778 | <a href="http://people.highline.edu/mlentini">http://people.highline.edu/mlentini</a> | @malapertmarc<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On Mar 26, 2018, at 9:26 AM, Jess Thompson <<a href="mailto:jess.thompson@sbctc.edu">jess.thompson@sbctc.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></font></span><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Lentini,
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Jess Thompson<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [ATcoord] Request for Feedback</span></font><font size="2" face="Corbel"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Corbel",sans-serif">
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Marc Lentini | Director, Instructional Design | Highline College<br>
v: (206) 592-3778 | <a href="http://people.highline.edu/mlentini">http://people.highline.edu/mlentini</a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>| @malapertmarc<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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