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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank-you, Charlene! I have the same concerns and would ask that we look at this further prior to voting. It will be worth our (our students’) while.
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<p class="MsoNormal">I know we all have the heart of the students in mind but this change/suggestion is significant enough that I would really appreciate a clearer understanding.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks all,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Brenda<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">BLC <blc-bounces@lists.ctc.edu> on behalf of Gore, Charlene via BLC <blc@lists.ctc.edu><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 5:19 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Baccalaureate Leadership Council <blc@lists.ctc.edu><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Gore, Charlene <cgore@tacomacc.edu><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [BLC] [EXTERNAL] Re: BLC Spring Quarter Meeting Registration<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello BLC Friends!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I know I am not part of BLC anymore, but I have some concerns. This does not make it more equitable for ctc students and does not allow for better BAS degree creation.
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3">This still forces us to require courses from all 5 distribution areas. This disadvantages ctc students! We have a deal with the regionals that if a student comes to us with a Bachelor's
degree, we will accept it as a package deal and not break out the distribution courses. There are NUMEROUS BA and BS degrees that do not have required courses in all distribution areas. So now we are saying, if you are privileged enough to have a bachelor's
degree already, then you are exempt from these forced buckets, but if you are at a ctc IN A PROF TECH PROGRAM THAT DOES NOT GENERALLY ALREADY REQUIRE THESE then you have to take them – even if you would get more benefit from taking 10 humanities and 0 natural
science or 10 natural science and 0 humanities. Why is it not enough to say that they need to have 45 general education credits, and you choose the bucket? Why do they mandate the areas when our regional partners have more flexibility?
<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3">The intention is to make BAS degrees for prof tech students – this version continues creating degrees built off of transfer degrees. BAS degrees are specifically to be built from applied
science degrees – if that is the case, perhaps we look to the AAS-T degree requirements (Associate of applied Science – Transfer), which only require 20 general education courses. Why would we build Bachelor of Applied Science degrees off of transfer degree
requirements when the legislature is clear that they are intended for prof-tech students and NOT transfer students. Many applied science degrees contain 5-10 gen eds – that means you have to leave room for an arbitrary 40-45 general education credits. For
an applied degree! These are NOT Bachelor of Arts or Bachelor of Science Degrees. They are APPLIED SCIENCE degrees – we cannot lose sight of that. (I realize that computer science and nursing are BS degrees – but that is NOT the majority of our degrees).<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3">The intention is to build bachelor's degrees that work for our students to transfer into Master's degree programs. By continuing to require these 5 buckets arbitrarily, it takes away
our ability to build degrees that fit the needs of our Master's program partners.
<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3"><b>This is one of the parts that I am most concerned about, as I believe there are major unintended consequences here!</b>
<u>Requiring an additional 20 credits of generally transferable courses as specified by the ICRC list</u>. While the course list in the ICRC handbook does not specify that these are lower-division only courses, if you look in the comment section on this list,
it is clear that many of these ARE lower division only. For example – MANY areas say ONLY introductory survey courses. Business says ONLY courses in introduction to business, business law, and statistical methods. That removes most if not all, upper-division
business courses from the list. Accounting only allows for Accounting I, II, and III. Our Regional partners use upper division distribution courses that go beyond an introduction. This addition makes it HARDER to create the BAS degree because it removes your
ability for most upper-division courses. <o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This is the FIRST TIME that IC has reviewed this. I realize it is taking a while, but please DO NOT just push this through because it is taking awhile. AND remember –we currently have "recommendations," so they are not requirements. We
should take our time and get this right. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This makes the pathway harder, not easier and advantages transfer students, who are not our target population.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Very Respectfully,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Char Gore, M.Ed, RHIA<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Executive Director for Strategic Initiatives<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Tacoma Community College<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">253-566-5082<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">cgore@tacomaccedu<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>I am working remotely right now. The best way to reach me is by email or meeting with me virtually through Zoom or by phone - sign up
<a href="https://tacomacc.instructure.com/courses/2164546#:~:text=appointment%20with%20me%3A-,Schedule%20online,-Dates">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> BLC <blc-bounces@lists.ctc.edu> <b>On Behalf Of
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<b>Cc:</b> Hogan, Lenaya <Lenaya.Hogan@sfcc.spokane.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [BLC] BLC Spring Quarter Meeting Registration<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> BLC <<a href="mailto:blc-bounces@lists.ctc.edu">blc-bounces@lists.ctc.edu</a>> on behalf of Connie Smejkal via BLC <<a href="mailto:blc@lists.ctc.edu">blc@lists.ctc.edu</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 6, 2022 9:59 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:blc@lists.ctc.edu">blc@lists.ctc.edu</a> <<a href="mailto:blc@lists.ctc.edu">blc@lists.ctc.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Connie Smejkal <<a href="mailto:connie.smejkal@centralia.edu">connie.smejkal@centralia.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [BLC] FW: BLC Spring Quarter Meeting Registration</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">Hello,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">A quick reminder regarding the BLC quarterly meeting. This meeting will be held via Zoom on April 19<sup>th</sup> and 20<sup>th</sup>. If you have not yet registered, there is still time! Please use this registration link
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Spring 2022_April 19 & 20 via Zoom - Google Forms</a> to register for one or both days.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">We are also seeking nominations for the following executive team members for next academic year. Please send nominations (for yourself or someone else) to any current executive team member.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal">Available opportunities:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="xmsolistparagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">Chair<o:p></o:p></li><li class="xmsolistparagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">Vice-chair<o:p></o:p></li><li class="xmsolistparagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">Secretary
<o:p></o:p></li><li class="xmsolistparagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">Member at Large<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="xmsonormal">We look forward to seeing you at the meeting(s).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal">Connie Smejkal <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><b>From:</b> Connie Smejkal <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 14, 2022 8:51 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:blc@lists.ctc.edu">blc@lists.ctc.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> BLC Spring Quarter Meeting Registration<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsoplaintext">Hello,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsoplaintext">BLC will be hosting a spring quarter meeting via Zoom.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsoplaintext">General membership meeting - open to anyone who would like to participate Tuesday, April 19th from 9am-12:30pm Zoom link:
<a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fus02web.zoom.us%2Fj%2F83209281513%3Fpwd%3DY3VRUWsvVlNmNkF3Y1lNYVpLWkFUdz09&data=04%7C01%7CLenaya.hogan%40sfcc.spokane.edu%7Cbf9f26cf0f9f434b9dfa08da18537f2a%7C4dedfefa6bd04442a06c98aed0b4b8da%7C1%7C1%7C637849044162447134%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=9IFmHmBY8a%2FzrtHOsWEY6g%2FaEcP%2BZtn91l2CXu86oVs%3D&reserved=0">
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/83209281513?pwd=Y3VRUWsvVlNmNkF3Y1lNYVpLWkFUdz09</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsoplaintext">Meeting ID: 832 0928 1513<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsoplaintext">Passcode: 409019<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsoplaintext">Business meeting - open to anyone to attend however only voting members may vote (one per college) Wednesday, April 20th from 9am-12:30pm Zoom link:
<a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fus02web.zoom.us%2Fj%2F84333570641%3Fpwd%3DRWdndFhFNGhzTG5wMWZVOVNmM0Y1Zz09&data=04%7C01%7CLenaya.hogan%40sfcc.spokane.edu%7Cbf9f26cf0f9f434b9dfa08da18537f2a%7C4dedfefa6bd04442a06c98aed0b4b8da%7C1%7C1%7C637849044162447134%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=o9xK7CkrVN%2FPwIpsZkZ%2ByPt9mpFmVjj0K1up%2BofJsTQ%3D&reserved=0">
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/84333570641?pwd=RWdndFhFNGhzTG5wMWZVOVNmM0Y1Zz09</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsoplaintext">Meeting ID: 843 3357 0641<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsoplaintext">Passcode: 600975<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">Please use this registration link <a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fforms%2Fd%2F1MbgxRjAEPWfTIWpRXYuUQm2Ci6VtpPYeqDyUvT7quZY%2Fedit&data=04%7C01%7CLenaya.hogan%40sfcc.spokane.edu%7Cbf9f26cf0f9f434b9dfa08da18537f2a%7C4dedfefa6bd04442a06c98aed0b4b8da%7C1%7C1%7C637849044162447134%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=k%2FHf%2FdZlTflj%2FxYQRelloBAYXVqOpQYUR24%2BEYn0B5E%3D&reserved=0">
Spring 2022_April 19 & 20 via Zoom - Google Forms</a> to register for one or both days.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsoplaintext">The draft agenda is attached to this email.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsoplaintext">If you have any questions regarding registration and/or the meeting, please let me know.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsoplaintext">Thank you,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsoplaintext">Connie Smejkal<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsoplaintext">BLC Chair<o:p></o:p></p>
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