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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">With input from Whatcom’s financial aid director:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D">Students are eligible when admitted or provisionally admitted to the program. We award financial aid to BAS students for GenEds required for the BAS degree and lower level courses required for
the degree that weren’t completed as part of the associate’s degree. However, financial aid would be dependent on the student having completed an associate’s degree, since that is a program admission requirement.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#364B9C">Trish Newbold</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D"> |<b>
</b>Workforce Education Coordinator<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#364B9C">Whatcom Community College<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D">(360) 383-3000 | Direct:
<b>(360) 383-3234</b><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> BLC [mailto:blc-bounces@lists.ctc.edu] <b>On Behalf Of
</b>McIrvin, Stefanie via BLC<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 24, 2019 3:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Baccalaureate Leadership Council <blc@lists.ctc.edu><br>
<b>Cc:</b> McIrvin, Stefanie <smcirvin@rtc.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [BLC] [EXT] Re: Financial Aid for BAS students<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hello,</span></a><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">My comments in red below.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’m wondering if your college offers financial aid to BAS students who have not yet completed their general education (or Associates Degree) requirements.
<span style="color:red">Yes. If the student has been accepted into the BAS program then they can use FA to pay for both BAS and gen ed classes.
</span>Does your institution allow for students to receive financial aid as a BAS student without a two-year degree?
<span style="color:red">Yes. Sometimes students are admitted who need to finish up other classes that go towards their overall BAS degree, so we allow FA to pay for those classes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:red"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:red">Our policy has been that if the classes that the student is taking can count towards their overall BAS degree, then FA can pay for those classes. It’s an access and barrier issue and we try to remove as many barriers
as we can.</span><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Stefanie McIrvin, Ed.D.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Associate Dean of Information Technology Programs<br>
Pronouns: She, Her, Hers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place - George Bernard Shaw<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> BLC [<a href="mailto:blc-bounces@lists.ctc.edu">mailto:blc-bounces@lists.ctc.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Scott Copeland via BLC<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 24, 2019 7:34 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Baccalaureate Leadership Council <<a href="mailto:blc@lists.ctc.edu">blc@lists.ctc.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Scott Copeland <<a href="mailto:scopeland@sbctc.edu">scopeland@sbctc.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXT] Re: [BLC] Financial Aid for BAS students<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Dusting off my financial aid hat----<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">A question to ask; is the student officially admitted to the BAS program or conditionally (provisionally) accepted. I assume that completion of the general education (associates degree) requirements as noted
in the question below is a condition of acceptance into your program. If so, then the following from the 2019-20 Federal Student Aid Handbook:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i>Students admitted as conditional are regular students only if the school officially accepts them into the eligible degree or certificate program. The Department does not define official acceptance or admission. If the student is merely
allowed to take some courses before being officially admitted to the program, she is not considered a regular student and is not eligible for FSA funds until she is officially admitted.<span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">In addition, we do track BAS students that are enrolled a non-matriculated (148 FTES in 2018-19). These students would generally not be aid eligible.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Always defer to your aid directors with these unique enrollment circumstances.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Segoe Script";color:#1F497D">Scott
</span></b><b><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Segoe Script";color:#1F497D">a</span></b><b><span style="font-family:"Segoe Script";color:#1F497D"> Copeland<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Scott A. Copeland<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Associate Director, College Relations and Policy Guidance<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Education Division<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Office: 360-704-4397<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Cell: 360-791-6026<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><a href="mailto:scopeland@sbctc.edu">scopeland@sbctc.edu</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> BLC <<a href="mailto:blc-bounces@lists.ctc.edu">blc-bounces@lists.ctc.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Hu, Johnny via BLC<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 23, 2019 11:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:blc@lists.ctc.edu">blc@lists.ctc.edu</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Hu, Johnny <<a href="mailto:Johnny.Hu@Seattlecolleges.edu">Johnny.Hu@Seattlecolleges.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [BLC] Financial Aid for BAS students<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi everyone, <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I’m wondering if your college offers financial aid to BAS students who have not yet completed their general education (or Associates Degree) requirements. Does your institution allow for students to receive financial aid as a BAS student
without a two-year degree?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you for your feedback. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Johnny<o:p></o:p></p>
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